Welcome to the third week of reading Trans Liberation: Beyond Pink or Blue by Leslie Feinberg!
If you're just getting started, here's a link to the thread for Chapter 1: https://hexbear.net/post/5178006?scrollToComments=false and Chapter 2: https://hexbear.net/post/5254179?scrollToComments=false
We're only doing one chapter per week and the discussion threads will be left open, so latecomers are still very much welcome to join if interested.
As mentioned before... This isn't just a book for trans people! If you're cis, please feel free to join and don't feel intimidated if you're not trans and/or new to these topics.
Here is a list of resources taken from the previous reading group session:
pdf download
epub download - Huge shout out to comrade @EugeneDebs for putting this together. I realized I didn't credit them in either post but here it is. I appreciate your efforts. ❤️
chapter 1 audiobook - Huge shout out to comrade @futomes for recording these. No words can truly express my appreciation for this. Thank you so much. ❤️
chapter 2 audiobook
chapter 3 audiobook
chapter 4 audiobook
chapter 5 audiobook
chapter 6 audiobook
chapter 7 audiobook
chapter 8 audiobook
Also here's another PDF download link and the whole book on ProleWiki.
In this thread we'll be discussing Chapter 3: Living Our True Spirit.
CWs: Minor mentions of transphobia.
This chapter covers a speech by Feinberg at the True Spirit Conference, a regional conference described as being for "people who are themselves, or who are supportive of others who were assigned female gender at birth, but who feel that is not an adequate or accurate description of who they are."
The "Portrait" section here is written by the conference chairperson, Gary Bowen, who describes himself as "a gay transman of Apache and Scotch-Irish descent, left-handed, differently-abled, the parent of two young children -one of whom is also differently abled - of an old Cracker frontier family from Texas, a person who values his Native heritage very deeply, and who is doing his best to live in accordance with the Spirit, and who keeps learning more about his heritage all the time."
I'll ping whoever has been participating so far, but please let me know if you'd like to be added (or removed).
Feel free to let me know if you have any feedback also. Thanks!
Okay I'm back with some thoughts
Others in the thread have already brought up the mentions of intersectionality, and I don't have anything to add, so I won't get into it. Though I would have liked it if Feinberg went more into detail explaining how the different "hierarchies" (race, gender, sexuality, socioeconomic class, etc.) work to enforce the others, but I do also get that it's a transcript of a speech about a broader subject.
I noticed that zie uses both words "transsexual" and "transgender", which confused me until I realized that by "transsexual" zie was referring to those who had medically transitioned, and "transgender" to those who had only socially transitioned. I only really started learning about what being trans really is within the last 5 years, and mainly from talking to people online where the general consensus seems to be that "transsexual" is a slur with sexual connotations, and "transgender" is the respectful word to use to refer to trans people, with no distinction regarding medical or social transition. I’m curious about when this changed happened and why.
There isn’t any one specific section that gave me this idea, but the whole thing made me think about how the categorizations of masculine and feminine aren’t just polarizing, but in a way limiting, by which I mean there are personality traits and interests that fit into neither category. For example, my true personality is somewhat silly and playful (though of course I’m able to be serious when it’s needed), which falls outside the conventionally accepted masculine personality types of either being aggressive and dominant, or being reserved and stoic (this is what I often default to because it's easier than the former). But it’s also not something conventionally accepted among women, and in some circles makes you immature or nerdy (pejorative). This exclusion of certain things isn’t something intrinsic to humans and therefore immutable since it’s socially constructed; in older generations playing video games as an adult is seen as childish and immature and would thus fall outside both masculine and feminine, but among people born after 1980 it’s fairly normal and accepted.
I liked Gary’s suggestion to look to trans history in other parts of the world, because he’s right that it’s something that people have been doing all over the world pretty much since the beginning of humanity. I’ve known about the historical class of trans people from the part of the world my parents came from, and how they were pretty much genocided by Spanish colonizers, but now I’m realizing there were probably also trans people in Spain being persecuted all the same, at the same time, by the same forces.
Thank you, I was confused about that as well.