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Watching the divide in republican circles on Iran has been a great way to see who is under Kremlin control. Most are who we already knew: Tulsi Gabbard, Tucker Carlson, Rand Paul, etc.
Yeah the entire US intelligence arm, really any public intelligence period, etc.
I vehemently disagree with those folks you mentioned but gotta say, not wanting to get involved in another war in the Middle East built on outright lies doesn’t make them Kremlin controlled. It’s other things.
I'm just saying that it's amusing the only anti-war Republicans in the administration and Congress are ones who've long looked, acted, and quacked like Kremlin assets:
There may be an intersection of my desire to not want to escalate for completely different reasons, and Kremlin operatives not wanting their ally and arms supplier to be crippled, but that is all.
Yeah, but have you seen Russian grocery stores? They have food!
Im not currently impressed but may change my tune within the year
All of those things you mentioned? Exactly what I was referencing earlier.
Definitely a fair point with one of Russia’s key military suppliers potentially being crippled, I agree. There have been other republican detractors in congress who don’t fall into the same boat and, again, I’m not sure I can really fault Gabbard (in this very specific context mind you) for just reiterating what the US’ own intelligence is saying.
Yeah real red blooded Americans want world war III
Real Americans yell TACO at trump until he bombs Iran.
This is just "the anti Vietnam War protestors are secretly working for the soviets" for the modern era. There were just as many conspiracies that left liberals were secretly agents of Moscow in the 60s.
I’m going to respond to a later comment of yours here for the sake of visibility.
Tucker Carlson flew to Russia to interview Vladimir Putin last year. That trip was financed by Tenant Media - the same group that was revealed to have been financed by Russia for the sake of spreading Russian talking points. Justin Trudeau gave testimony under oath that Tucker was shilling for Russia.
It is more challenging, generally, to show that politicians are illegally taking money from foreign interests because the pathways by which money is publicly disclosed are more well-known. So the pathways through which money may be hidden can also be followed to disguise the source of income. Unless one gets caught.
As did an aid of Rand Paul’s, who helped funnel Russian money into the RNC during the 2016 election, and whom was later pardoned by Trump, at Rand Paul’s urging.
As far as Gabbard is concerned - no money trails, but even her own staff think she’s compromised.
Some right wing influencers have already been shown to take Kremlin money
Yeah, and there were plenty of left journalists on the payroll of Moscow in the 60s. They tended to cover the civil rights movement and anti-war movement very positively, does that mean the leaders of those movements were also secretly agents of the communists?
Has there been any proof that the people OP mentioned have any connection to putin? Don't get me wrong there all horrible people, but it's not because there "Russian assets" and if they're gonna go against this God awful war then good on them.
I mean, many of those leaders were communists... But not agents of the Soviets, which was a convenient accusation tho
Maybe "communist" by the 60s definition as in anyone to the left of keynes then yeah I guess so, but MLK wasn't a communist in any real political sense.
The analogy still holds though, many of the leaders OP is pointing out are regressive right wing nationalist who would naturally align with putin without being agents of the Kremlin.
Both these accusations tend to put the blame of these movements on foreigners meddling with our democracy instead of real strains of thought coming from that democracy that need to be addressed.
Yes, MLK was one of the most moderate representatives of the movement, yet even he was a democratic socialist (even if that played much less of a role in his convictions than his christianity)
Anti-war people being consistent in their anti-war stance somehow means they're Putin's puppets.
Oh, so Tulsi Gabbard definitely 100% publicly denounced Russia's unprecedented act of aggression and imperial invasion of Ukraine, right...?
... Right... ?
Do not conflate being against the war with Iran as being a Putin puppet.
To the contrary, I am conflating the fact that the alleged "anti-war" person (your words) suddenly wasn't "anti-war" when Russia invaded Ukraine as being a Putin puppet; that, and the fact that US intelligence reports found that Russia was promoting Tulsi as the Democratic primaries candidate in 2020, among other things.
Bystanders take note how this individual is trying really hard to separate Tulsi Gabbard from the Kremlin. Like, really hard. Deflections and all.
I don't give a fuck about those people. What I give a fuck about is this:
Is conflating being against the war with Iran with being Putin's puppet and is drumming support for the war. Stop supporting Trump's war.
Never once did I say that solely being against war with Iran meant someone was Putin's puppet. Never. Either work on your reading comprehension or get your eyes checked.
What I did say is that those specific Republican members who are known Kremlin parrots conveniently oppose the war for ulterior motives. This much is clear.
What "ulterior motives" if not for being Putin's puppets? It can't be because they aren't Israel's puppets like Cruz or Trump. It can't be because war with Iran is fucking stupid.
Sounds like something one of Putin's puppets would say.