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A civil society report by the organization Claim documented more than 3,000 anti-Muslim incidents in Germany in 2024.

The report links the surge to geopolitical events and warns of growing normalization and brutality in anti-Muslim racism.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

just like in every other european country, there were almost no steps towards integration. this is what you get.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago

Here in Denmark the right wing faught hard to make sure no actual integration would happen. Now they point at the badly integrated immigrants and say "look, they're not even interested in being integrated".

We have laws that prevent immigrants from getting jobs, and a language course that isn't mandetory. These laws are in place because of the right wing party "Danish Peoples Party" didn't want immigrants to be able to succeed.

How are people supposed to be integrated when they can't meet the people they need to integrate with?

When we got a shitload of ukrainians, the law preventing them from working was abolished, but only for ukrainian refugee. Guess what? The ukrainians are integrating amasingly. Turns out, if you get to socialise with people, you're more likely to learn how to behave around those people.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yep, history repeats itself again. Netherlands and Germany imported a ton of laborers from North Africa and Turkey after WW2. But they literally only let the equivalent of redneck hillbillies in, since they were cheaper than educated urbanites. Germany and Netherlands needed cheap labor to rebuild after the war, but they wanted the cheapest of the cheapest. So most of them were illiterate subsistence farmers. And everyone thought that they would go back home after a few years so no efforts were made to integrate these people. And even if they tried they failed since these people weren’t very smart. Like seriously I’ve seen people who live here in Europe for longer than they lived in their country of birth and still can’t string a proper sentence together in the language of the country they live in. Not to mention most are religiously conservative and conservatives are not known to be openminded which makes it hard to integrate them.

Lo and behold two generations later the descendants of these migrants are overrepresented in the jobless, school dropout and crime stats.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

And even if they tried they failed since these people weren’t very smart. Like seriously I’ve seen people who live here in Europe for longer than they lived in their country of birth and still can’t string a proper sentence together in the language of the country they live in.

Ah yes only the very intelligent can learn to speak our sophisticated language.

This is such a incredibly stupid and hypocritical accusation, since like you correctly spelled out before they weren't given many opportunities to do so. Since they were poor most had/have difficulties learning a language while also working construction, where most their coworkers aren't german speakers either and housing costs force them to live in areas where they don't have much cause/opportunity to bother with other germans. This is unlike most of the germans living in Turkey who dont bother to learn turkish out of sheer laziness.

I had a friend who came here speaking turkish and arabic and learned farsi, urdu and kurmanci before german because thats the people he had contact with. On the other side I have lived in Turkey as a german and a lot of the other europeans there did not bother to integrate at all, but chose to live in gated, self-segregated communities where they had as little turkish culture as possible.

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