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New York Times is reporting an annonomous but senior offical in Iran said Iran is willing to come to the US and beg for peace... this after the Iranian leadership saying they would not under any circumstance come to washington and beg
After following the situations in Syria and Ukraine for a while, the best thing I do is to not take anything either side has to say unless there is some evidence about it. The bigger the claim the more evidence is needed, until then I treat it as propaganda/misdirection and look at why they would say such things...
This is really silly. I think Iran has earned quite a bit of credibility. Israel and trump have both proven to be liars over and over. If an official Iranian outlet says something it tends to be true. There are pro-Iran voices that deserve scrutiny but painting the two sides as anywhere near equal is centrist bullshit.
I am going to 70% agree with you, I tend to belive Iranian sources but if I post from them, however because they are an active party I feel more of a need to go and find a second source than if the People's Daily had mentioned it if that makes any sense
Though nothing like US or Israeli media, I mostly posted the NYT because well, it is as close to a bold face lie as it gets, but it felt relivent to mention that the US media is still touting that Iran will come to DC to talk
For example, there were talks of Iran downing jets (not sure if from official sources or not) but so far nothing materalized, and I wasn't expecting it to either. Not until the first confirmation.
Another one isbthat we have western media saying that Iran is scared and Iran officially saying they'll fight no matter what. So far Iran's claims are most likely closer to the truth, but things haven't been going for long enough for me to make any predictions for the next months with any confidence.
I doubt I will trust anything coming out of the west unless I already knew about it from good sources or it's an action, but it doesn't mean I'll believe whatever Iran says either.
New York Times is reporting an annonomous but senior offical in Iran said Iran is willing to come to the US and beg for peace... this after the Iranian leadership saying they would not under any circumstance come to washington and beg
https://archive.ph/WZ7t2
I cannot find anything agreeing with this, and its new enough I do not think Iran has been able to refute it
New York Lies 🥱
That would be my bet, I cannot see why Iran would within the same day say we will not grovel also tell the NYT we will grovel
After following the situations in Syria and Ukraine for a while, the best thing I do is to not take anything either side has to say unless there is some evidence about it. The bigger the claim the more evidence is needed, until then I treat it as propaganda/misdirection and look at why they would say such things...
This is really silly. I think Iran has earned quite a bit of credibility. Israel and trump have both proven to be liars over and over. If an official Iranian outlet says something it tends to be true. There are pro-Iran voices that deserve scrutiny but painting the two sides as anywhere near equal is centrist bullshit.
I am going to 70% agree with you, I tend to belive Iranian sources but if I post from them, however because they are an active party I feel more of a need to go and find a second source than if the People's Daily had mentioned it if that makes any sense
Though nothing like US or Israeli media, I mostly posted the NYT because well, it is as close to a bold face lie as it gets, but it felt relivent to mention that the US media is still touting that Iran will come to DC to talk
For example, there were talks of Iran downing jets (not sure if from official sources or not) but so far nothing materalized, and I wasn't expecting it to either. Not until the first confirmation.
Another one isbthat we have western media saying that Iran is scared and Iran officially saying they'll fight no matter what. So far Iran's claims are most likely closer to the truth, but things haven't been going for long enough for me to make any predictions for the next months with any confidence.
I doubt I will trust anything coming out of the west unless I already knew about it from good sources or it's an action, but it doesn't mean I'll believe whatever Iran says either.