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Your guide to finding a new Search Engine service and supporting European companies! (lemmy.world)

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Very strange to put Kagi as “less private” when it’s the only non-self-hosted option that allows for completely private searches with their Privacy Pass tokens. You can access them with Tor, pay with crypto (not really that private though), and sign up with a fake email. https://kagi.com/privacy#anonymity

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

It isn't marked as less private. It is grayed out because it is not based in Europe. I personally use them as I find them the best option with what is out there.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

The text at the bottom says “kagi doesn’t collect any identifying data, but does require an account, so it is considered less private than the alternatives”.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I think that's Walnut's nod to the fact that PrivacyGuides still hasn't wrapped their head around the concept of paid search.

I haven't seen any legitimate evidence that Kagi's Privacy Pass is any less private than any other search option on the market, but long ago PG defined private search as "not requiring an account" and are completely locked up on that concept.

Even though just about every VPN on the planet (and all of their recommended ones) require accounts, as do most of the other services they recommend. The world is just so used to "free" search (which just sells your data or your time) that they don't know what to do with a new business model.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

With fingerprinting and even just IP tracking, I think the question is more whether they can be trusted to not track you (i.e. whether it makes business sense).

[-] [email protected] 1 points 31 minutes ago

But they allow access over Tor and their privacy tokens means they can’t tie your search to your account, so they both don’t get fingerprinting nor know who is even making the request.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Bitcoin isn’t private at all. It’s a very transparent cryptocurrency.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I didn’t say bitcoin and I called out not really private in my comment.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I'm just adding extra info to your comment. They take payment in Bitcoin, but crypto like Monero is private, which they don't take.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Oh ok

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