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I read Wikipedia and it says a majority of Americans actually support "deporting all 'illegal immigrants'". Is this actually true?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_in_the_second_presidency_of_Donald_Trump

At the time of his first campaign, approximately one-third of Americans supported the idea – but by the start of his second term, eight years later, public opinion had undergone a shift, with a majority of Americans believing all illegal immigrants should be deported. By April 2025, slightly over half of Americans felt the level of deportations went "too far".

(Of course, people say it went "too far" after they already voted this fucker into office.)

The Source Wikipedia Cited: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/01/23/cnns_enten_there_has_been_a_massive_shift_on_immigration_the_majority_of_americans_believe_illegals_should_be_deported.html

My brother who is a legal immigrant and naturalized citizen, actually voted harris in 2024, but doesn't seem to be bothered by the mass deportations, even though he hates trump.

It this actually a common sentinment amongst Americans?

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't think I'm taking away his agency. I'll even quote myself.

I used to think that being a true believer was his worst quality and why things went so badly and it made me think being a true believer was the most dangerous quality you could have in a leader.

His agency is defined by his religion, his religion is why he was so sure he was doing the right thing without any self-reflection on the human consequences of the millions of lives lost in Iraq. He was justifying it as a means to an end to win a Holy War. That's pretty horrific.

I do think he actually wanted to do good in the world, but yes, true believers of religion are often blinded to the suffering they're making happen because they're so sure that the suffering needs to happen for God to love them. That's why I thought being a true believer was a dangerous quality in a leader, because they don't have the capacity to self reflect on how horrific their decisions are due to the fact that in their mind the ends justify the means in the name of God. That's still his own agency choosing to ignore the horrors he wrought because he believed it needed to happen in God's name. Religion didn't force that viewpoint upon him, there are plenty of pacifist religious people, it was a choice he made in the name of his religion.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I suppose that makes sense.

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