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submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

mullvad and proton stand as vpn. However, mullvad does not allow torrenting because there is no port forwarding. Mullvad should not be on the list

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

Without port forwarding you can only connect to those who do have it set up. Doing so yourself allows you to be a better citizen of the internet and share with people who don't know what it is.

(Caveat: I am one of those people who don't understand it and am just parroting what was explained to me when I asked about this)

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

So it's more a seeding issue rather than a leeching issue in this case I assume.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

well, you can't leech from people with closed ports so.. it's still worse. better to get something that can actually forward ports.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

So Proton is okay then, or do you have a better suggestion? I'm trying to look through the megathread for info.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

proton would be fine. i've heard great stuff about airvpn too. haven't used any though, i mostly don't use a vpn

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think it's both? I'm assuming you get fewer seeds you can connect to as well.

Either way, seeding issues are leeching issues, in the grand scheme of things.

Edit: I only stress the seed side because I've found I get things plenty fast even with Mullvad, so not explaining the issue and just talking about down speed can make it seem unnecessary, when it is in fact critical to the health of the community.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

See my comment here. An open port is only required for TCP connections. uTP/UDP allows the tracker to open up a port temporarily in many cases. This won't work for those stuck with ancient torrent clients.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

This won't work for those stuck with ancient torrent clients.

It also doesn't work with Private Trackers.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Port forwarding allows you to seed without revealing your IP address. If you seed on a VPN and you don't have port forwarding, your IP is revealed to those you seed to.

Edit -- I was wrong. You can technically seed securely behind a VPN connection, but since you can't be connected to directly behind a vpn without port forwarding, you would only be able to seed to ppl who port forward, or who can be connected to directly. You would only be able to leech from everyone else.

If everyone torrented like this (behind a VPN without port forwarding), all torrents would grind to a halt; nobody would be able to seed.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Port forwarding allows connecting to peers who have not set it up (for both leeching and seeding). Two peers without port forwarding can't connect to each other, if you set it up you can connect to every peer in the swarm. Torrenting behing a VPN always hides your real IP address๐Ÿ˜‰

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

No. Port forwarding, with or without a VPN, helps connectivity โ€“ you'll be able to accept incoming connections.

Without a VPN, peers can see your IP address with or without port forwarding.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Doesn't that completely defeat the purpose of using a VPN?

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

If you were intending to seed, yes.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Do you know where I can learn more about this? That's a pretty important detail to be as glossed over as it is in this community

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