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[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Has there been a single technology entirely captured and for the workers in history, ever?

No, technology has no ideology, which is why we shouldn't be opposed to using the tools that the ruling class uses against us. The chinese communists didn't win the civil war without using guns or without studying military tactics and logistics.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Absolutely not. I'm not saying that we shouldn't, I suppose looking at my response to Yogthos explains my position better.

Also, I think the framing of the idea that people are against it because it doesn't have a clear, distinct use-case in politics or against the capitalists yet isn't being anti-A.I nor reactionary. I think being cautious with any new technology is reasonable.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Technology absolutely has an ideology. All technology produces winners and losers, complicates previous tasks while making some easier, and overlaps heavily with futurism. If tech doesn't have an ideology, then we would say Luddites and Amish are merely social clubs, and not social movements.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

people do ideology, not tech. tech can be used to serve an ideological purpose, but this does not mean that tech has an ideology, it is the people using it that do. To quote michael parenti:

"It is said that cameras don't lie, but we must remember that liars use cameras." - Michael Parenti

Luddites and the amish refusing to use tech is not due to tech discriminating them, but because their ideology discriminates tech, sometimes as absurd as saying that tech is the devil.

tech is built on laws of nature, think of gravity, does gravity act differently on an anarchist than it does on a libertarian? absolutely not.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm not advocating for primitivism or reactionary views against using it. I'm trying to point out that people aren't going to embrace or accept this technology as much when it does more harm than good and will continue to do so just as the existence of Linux or other open-source projects doesn't impede capitalism or it's destruction in anyway. As this tech is being utilized in an ideological purpose, it will always be utilized more effectively and powerfully than any open-source case under the dominant ideology who controls the economy.

If there is a clear, distinct use-case of this technology that benefits our cause and doesn't harm workers, great! The one example of it being used in that news channel rainpizza mentioned is reasonable.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago
[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Correct. We can use carbines and rifle equivalents while the enemy is building massive data-centers in third world countries and marginalized communities as the technology is used on their side to ramp up global exploitation of the third world, squeezing out their minor white-collar industries for even more productivity as they use it to race and keep up with ever-lowering wages as productivity sky-rockets globally.

I'm glad while this happens we can have an open-source equivalent. Do you see why people are so glum or dismal about it?

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