this post was submitted on 15 Aug 2023
-960 points (33.0% liked)
Lemmy.World Announcements
29079 readers
250 users here now
This Community is intended for posts about the Lemmy.world server by the admins.
Follow us for server news π
Outages π₯
https://status.lemmy.world/
For support with issues at Lemmy.world, go to the Lemmy.world Support community.
Support e-mail
Any support requests are best sent to [email protected] e-mail.
Report contact
- DM https://lemmy.world/u/lwreport
- Email [email protected] (PGP Supported)
Donations π
If you would like to make a donation to support the cost of running this platform, please do so at the following donation URLs.
If you can, please use / switch to Ko-Fi, it has the lowest fees for us
Join the team
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Look at what happened to Gary Bowser. Dude basically ran PR on a website, but because he was the guy who they were actually able to find and get a hold of easily, he's now on the hook for millions of dollars of damages that he didn't cause to Nintendo.
I am disappointed in this because I think that there is such a thing as ethical piracy and protest piracy and that they're important. But I also know that those things aren't going to be stopped or even significantly hindered by one instance deciding not to host their content. And I understand the fear that comes with stories about how rights holders have gone after whoever the fuck they can when they've got a burr up their ass about something.
Should the admins of Lemmy.World be held liable for a community simply discussing piracy and not actively practicing it on the site? No. Would they be? We don't know. It's possible. And that's what makes it scary. People who commit digital crimes often get hit with disproportionately harsh punishments. They're sometimes treated like terrorists. It's insane. And yes, it's frightening.
Ethical piracy lmao
The internet never ceases to amaze
Abandonware is ethical piracy since there's no feasible way to purchase it from the rights holders directly.
You know what I hadn't considered abandonware, and I will def gladly concede both that point and supplying to "blacklist" countries that ban media.
I pirate like a son-of-a-bitch.^1^ The stuff I pirate is not available where I live. There is literally zero avenues for me to purchase it.
In what meaningful (βthis word is important and doing a lot of heavy lifting, so pay close attention to it!) way are the people I'm pirating from getting harmed? As such, in what meaningful (βc.f. above for the importance of this word) way, then, is it unethical?
And if it isn't unethical it is ... ?
The Internet truly does never cease to amaze. Just not in the way that some of its louder, brasher, more uninformed, thoughtless portions think it does.
^1^ I still support lemmy.world's decision to block those communities. Yes, you can be pro-piracy, an active pirate, and still support an action that is contrary to piracy. Welcome to "nuance". It's not a native of the Internet so you don't see it very often.
Piracy bad! Won't somebody think of the multibillion dollar corporations?? T_T
I'm pirate shit too, and support this decision. One can pirate shit and still realize most people pirating shit are just people stealing.
Piracy creates a copy, it does not remove the original like theft does. Also, people have a variety of reasons to pirate. Content not available in their country, wanting to test something before buying it, already having the thing in some form,but piracy being easier...
One can steal Intellectual Property, so physicality of something isn't exactly a real argument.
No, they're violating copyright law.
I mean, it is a thing. I'm not saying that you'll agree that it's a right thing or that it's justifiable. I understand arguments against it. But it's more along the lines of Peter Sunde's stuff. Piracy which fights for freedom of information, against things like corporate secrets and abuses, things like that. One of the examples of ethical piracy has been using piracy to share news and media with blackout countries, nations that are banned from getting any media that isn't state approved. I would call that kind of piracy ethical piracy.
Protest piracy is where you pirate something in protest of the people who would otherwise be making a profit off of it. There's a reason why that's not under the same umbrella. People can call pirating Adobe products what they want, but it's not at the same level of trying to effect social change as ethical piracy reaches for.