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[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Those middle paragraphs were kinda important though, tbf. It was explaining that as a whole they are more likely to die in custody because they are more likely to be in custody in the first place. When addressing hypotheses specifically about deaths in custody, the first statistic (where indigenous people are not overrepresented) is a lot more meaningful. If they're in custody, they're not more likely to die - that's not 'misleading', is it?

We need to do a lot to improve the treatment of indigenous people, that goes without saying. It's important that we're barking up the right tree, but I appreciate that it's a sensitive topic and it's also important to not just cite cold stats. It's a big issue - why are they overrepresented in custody? I don't think there is some magical instant answer, but I think broader history shows that addressing poverty will simultaneously address a lot of these issues.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

No it’s not, it’s irrelevant which is why I cut it out.

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people made up 28% of the total prison population in Australia as of 30 June 2019, while making up just over 3% of the total population.

Already covers it in the first part. When you compare prison populations Aboriginal people die at a lesser rate because so many are locked that they lower the trend.

When you compare per person in society, they are overwhelmingly dying more often in custody compared to any other group.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

It sounds like we agree - they're dying more in custody far more than non-indigenous because they are in custody far more than non-indigenous. Sorry if I misunderstood at any point.

While acknowledging the gravity of the deaths and always respecting cultural sensitivities, a successful systemic review should be focused on reducing overrepresentation in custody, not specifically just deaths in custody.

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