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Sounds like you've been eating the yellow snow again 🙄
@Viking_Hippie No, I just like under $5/gallon gas and reliable affordable electricity, neither of which was a problem before Regretta hysteria.
lol your anger is directed in the wrong direction.
@iAvicenna I think I am entitled to make my own decisions with respect to whom to direct my anger at.
And people are allowed to think you’re stupid for directing your anger like a stupid person.
yes you are, never suggested to let me make your decisions on your behalf but merely a discussion.
My opinion is that if you are complaining about increasing costs of living, then most likely the culprits are people who hoard wealth and still increase prices of goods "because inflation and taxes" while making record profits. I highly doubt it is a girl who tries to tackle this interconnected web of "who is the most powerful" insanity from one of its corners.
@iAvicenna Yea, you have the typical communist mentality, if you don't have enough goods, it's not because there aren't enough goods, it's because they aren't equally distributed.
The Bolsheviks had this mentality. They had a few big land owners farming the land and providing food for the masses. But the Bolsheviks thought everyone should own an equal amount of land, so they took it away from the farmers, divided it up, and gave it to all the plebs.
The end results, the new land owners didn't know how to farm and ten million people starved to death.
Well for one I would not see my self as a communist (I don't even know enough of the theory to make such bold claims, but neither do you as it seems like). Secondly, I am a big fan of people with expertise and know-how producing goods and find that setup much more efficient and safe (unless when profits are prioritized over safety obviously). Finally you have grossly oversimplified a historical event to the point where it just serves the same purpose as fabricated piece of data. The lands were not only owned by few big land owners and Bolsheviks sure as hell did not just tramp over a couple of giant farming oligarchies, they tramped over millions of small to medium sized producers as well. A lot of the land were owned by kulaks, most of which were akin to business owners of today (but no where near corporate conglomerates), perhaps roughly corresponding to ~%5 of the population. The event you described is known in history as dekulakization where by millions of such people were affected by the harsh measures taken (deportation, execution, imprisonment). Even after mass dekulakization, the soviet government continued to confiscate grains from any peasants that did not look like they were starving. If you try to associate the methods of such a mentally insane government with advantages of equal distribution of goods then you lack the basic capabilities of critical thinking, sorry. So in summary, what has happened back then is no where near the story you have fabricated above. It was clearly a move of political motivation and has nothing to do with what is going on today, i.e truly only couple conglomerates owning the means of production to everything and suffocating the small producers out of business by market monopoly and then running amock with pricing and profits.
This rhetoric of "communists did blah, socialists did bluh and then look what happened" does not apply to today really. We are facing a different beast now. Unchecked corporate oligarchies were allowed to become so powerful that only a handful of people in each country are dominating most of the production and political landscape; %5 of the population owning the means of food production sounds like a heaven compared to the situation we are in:
Revealed: the true extent of America’s food monopolies, and who pays the price
Just a couple weeks ago a mentally insane billionaire was randomly firing hundreds of thousands of people from their jobs in government because he thought they were unnecessary. When governments start to prioritize interests of corporate oligarchies over the people they represent, we may as well be fucked my friend. The only chance of living a decent life is either completely going off the grid and waiting to die or identifying who your enemies are correctly and making them realize that they depend more on you then you on them:
Energy giants see £457 billion profits as consumers’ bills rise
British Gas profits leap from £72m to £751m in a year
Energy firm profits top £483 billion since start of crisis
And you still think a girl is the main reason your are paying more for energy and gas lol.
@iAvicenna Knowing history is even better than knowing theory, theory is just that, history is fact.
well then I suggest you get (or present) a more refined understanding of historical facts rather than taking (or presenting) them as pills, as you do injustice to history then.
@iAvicenna You can stick your head in the ground and ignore history but it has the unfortunate side effect of likely leading to your own demise and potentially others.
you can fabricate historical facts and or pretend like everything you heard from someone is factually accurate because it fits the narrative in your head but it has the same side effects that you have mentioned
@iAvicenna Your accusations of what I know to be facts as being fabrications only points to your own lack of knowledge.
I know, history is scary, if we get too attached to the past we might be tempted to recreate it. The truth is NOT knowing history is what dooms you to recreate it.
Picture yourself on a boat on the ocean, far away from any land. If you don't know where you've been how do you know you're not going around in circles?
you only go in circles if you twist the historical facts like you do
@iAvicenna Well I guess you're destining us to re-live it.
It is more like you are cursed to repeat this infinitely many times and I am just passing by, enjoy.
Haha, this boomer thinks a schoolgirl caused his fucking gas to become more expensive
That's just factually inaccurate.
Renewable energy is cheaper and more reliable than fossil fuel energy and the high gas prices are due to OPEC and US market manipulation as well as other geopolitical factors, not anything "regretta" (🙄) or other activists do.
@Viking_Hippie You're obviously one of Klaus Schwab's brain-washed minion. Sun don't shine at night, wind blows randomly, hydro is great but only limited opportunities, and the Indians want to be able to fish unlimited salmon and are blaming the dams for not being able to do that, so yea, renewables are a problem.
@Viking_Hippie You're obviously one of Klaus Schwab's brain-washed minion. Sun don't shine at night, wind blows randomly, hydro is great but only limited opportunities, and the Indians want to be able to fish unlimited salmon and are blaming the dams for not being able to do that, so yea, renewables are a problem.
Alex Jones fanboy and/or antisemitic conspiracy theorist detected 🤦
I don't think billionaires or greenwashing faux-nonprofits like the WEF should exist. And no, Soros isn't paying me to say that 🙄
Ever heard of energy storage?
Nope
Which is why you combine it with other sources of renewable energy
Nope
Nope. Disinformation like what you're spreading is the problem.
@Viking_Hippie Yes I've heard of energy storage, there is enough for about five minutes worth of electricity. Every heard of economics? There are only so many areas for pumped hydro and they are mostly tapped out. Lithium ion batteries have a habit of self-immolation and are prohibitively expensive and there isn't enough accessible lithium on the planet to put a dent in the problem. What other brilliant ideas have you to offer?
That's absolute nonsense.
I have, yes. That's part of why I'm arguing for energy production that's cheaper in the short, medium, and long term and doesn't rely on finite resources that have a deleterious effect on humanity.
Pumped hydro? Wait, you're talking about hydrogen powered cars now? 🤦
Are on the way out as alternatives such as sodium batteries are being researched and improved
Here's one: shut the fuck up with your nonsense before you embarrass yourself further.
@Viking_Hippie Well you are calling what I know to be fact non-sense so I know you are too out of touch with reality to have a coherent discussion with.
Fixed it for you.
Right back at you, "infowarrior" 🙄
Total world wide electricity generation is 17,400,000,000,000 watts, total battery energy storage 57,000,000,000, pumped hydro adds another 17,900,000,000 do the math and you can see why storage ain't gonna get us there, at least not with existing technologies. The recent outages in Spain and Portugal were the direct result of unreliable renewable energy.
Fun fact: the current amount of storage is not the maximum amount possible. You're conflating current capacity with maximum capacity possible, which is idiotic at best and deliberately misleading at worst.
You might as well say that it's impossible for me to ever roller skate anywhere due to not currently owning any skates.
First of all, that's not true. Second of all, even if it was, that's irrelevant as new and improved technology is constantly being developed in spite of luddites like yourself trying their hardest to make it stop.
Nope. I ask again: don't you ever get tired of lying all the time?
@Viking_Hippie Not lying. It is a well known if not widely admitted to fact.
@Viking_Hippie No I'm not conflating anything, what we have NOW determines how long the grid can tolerate under production and that is about five minutes. But wind might not blow for days, the sun is on average not in the sky 12 hours out of the day and the majority of those hours it is at an angle that makes less than peak production possible. But even if we used every gram of lithium we have we couldn't produce enough storage. There are some alternatives, vanadium flow batteries, but again vanadium is expensive and in short supply, or sodium ion batteries, here we've probably got adequate materials, but sodium has a two step discharge curve that make the electronics more expensive. In short we don't PRESENTLY have enough storage and it is doubtful that we will ever have enough to last overnight.
@Viking_Hippie Ok so you're a communist, you think people should give you stuff free but deny them the means of production at the same time.
Wrong again. Unlike you, I'm no fan of authoritarianism.
Nope
Wrong again.
Don't you ever get tired of trotting out your ridiculous army of strawmen?
@Viking_Hippie You're no fan of authoritarianism yet you want authority over others access to energy and goods. And you want to deny people access to reliable affordable energy which is necessary to the production of damned near everything.
Correct.
Incorrect.
Literally the opposite of what I'm advocating.
Fossil fuels? Nope. There's literally no fossil fuel product or process that doesn't have alternatives.
The only reasons why fossil fuels haven't been COMPLETELY phased out DECADES ago are billionaires and their conglomerates bribing politicians and buying media to spread disinformation and useful idiots like yourself helping for free.
@Viking_Hippie Sure there are alternatives but nothing can be put in place overnight and the capacity should be there before you should down fossil fuel plants. Also the only real reliable alternatives that can be scaled are nuclear fission and geo-thermal, and geo-thermal is only available in some geographical regions, although in the US you could build enough capacity in yellow-stone to supply the entire country, the same namby-pambys that are panic'ing over carbon dioxide don't want to risk diminishing the geysers. And most of them are also opposed to nukes.
My guy, widespread renewables would make gas cheaper. Less demand > cheaper supply
@Quadhammer So far that hasn't proven to be the case. Any nation that has wide spread application of renewable energy also has very high rates. Take Spain for example, approximately 50% of it's energy comes from renewables is 19.9cents / Kwh. Saudi Arabia by contrast, less than 1% of it's energy from renewables, 6.1cents / Kwh, less than one third the cost in Spain AND their grid doesn't collapse on a regular basis when clouds obscure a solar farm or the wind dies down.