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Musk blows up online as ‘ketamine’ dinner clip resurfaces
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I'm an American, and it's going to take me a lifetime to look at America as anything resembling intelligence.
That's the thing and something I've noticed for many years and in meeting many Americans.
The majority of Americans I've met in person were good wholesome people and most of the time I couldn't tell the difference if they were American or Canadian (unless they had a strong accent from the American south).
It's when you start talking about politics or religion that things seem to fall apart. There's a strong Christian 'identity', it's certainly not religious ... cult like but not religious.
But in the mix are good natured people with good natured ideas of politics and inclusion .... but the loudest most obnoxious ones always seem to win out.
I've done my best to not paint all Americans as selfish, ignorant, self absorbed, hateful individuals .... but in light of everything that is coming out of the US government, which should represent the ideas and attitudes of a country ... it is getting harder and harder to like America or Americans.
I don't blame you. I grew up here thinking that most people were generally good/decent people. I was propagandized to hell and back and grew up believing that America was as good as it got in the world. Other places (like Canada) weren't bad, but just but as great as America.
It wasn't until I left my cult-like religion (Mormonism) at age 18 that I truly started learning more accurate history and exploring other cultures that I realized how deep in the hole I was as a human. I spent 20 years thinking that America was imperfect but had the potential to be better, and to come to terms with it's thorny past. Obama being elected seemed to prove that potential.
Trump (then Trump 2.0) had destroyed that last illusion and I'm not sure what it would take to rebuild any sense of pride in my country. My entire extended family (as far as I'm aware of) are all in support of what is happening here, and it is stressing any vestige of relationship I had left after leaving their religion all those years ago.
Trust takes years to build, and a moment to lose. America has lost any trust in this moment. It'll take a lifetime to rebuild at best. My son is in for a harder life because of it and I can't help feeling guilty
It's called American Civil Religion.
Mate, the ones I went to school with knew about Thailand, knew about Singapore, but couldn't point out Malaysia to save their lives.