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Lost to Trump. He's running for a third term and he's tearing down as much infrastructure as he can to do it. This isn't going to be a representative democracy if Trump and the goons behind him stay in power. Infighting and implosion is all we can hope for.
He's repeatedly said he won't... not that he can't change his mind but I'd be really surprised if he ran again. There's a much better chance of him dying in office than running again, let alone winning given he'd literally have to get a constitutional amendment passed. The supreme court is conservative but they have a strong record of swatting down his more ridiculous claims, including when he tried to challenge the 2020 election results.
If Donald Trump is President past January 2029, he won't need an election to do it.
Just like in Russia, appearances will matter. Show pony elections are often the norm in totalitarian states.
If appearances mattered they wouldn't be doing half the shit they are doing right now.
Appearances do matter. It's how fascism comes to power.
https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/63502/understanding-how-fascism-showed-that-direct-government-is-not-same-as-self-gove
From your link:
This is proven obviously false by history. Every successful fascist government abandoned the democratic political system when it was no longer useful. That's what I mean by appearances not mattering. Appearances do matter up to a certain point, but once fascists seize power the mask falls away and the fascists stop pretending because appearances stop mattering.
How so? Mussolini did that exact process in Italy, as did Hitler and Franco.
I'd love a source on that
Franco was never elected. He was appointed by the Junta during Spanish Civil War, and lost the elections a few years before.
As for Italy, the last elections were in 1934 once the fascists consolidated power and the Chamber of Deputies was replaced with the Chamber of Fasces and Corporations. The last elections Germany had were in 1933 which saw Hitler appointed as Chancellor.
Italy was a dictatorship 11 years, Germany for 12 years, and Spain for 40 years. They didn't even bother to maintain the appearance of democracy during this time, they dissolved parliaments and banned political parties and became very open dictatorships.
Once the fascists are in power they rip off the mask because appearances don't matter anymore.