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[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I go Italian with a lot of kitchen appliances. My Italian stainless steel frying pan is amazing. Pasta machine obviously. They also make some great shoes and leather products.

I would never trust them with anything of equal or greater complexity to a bicycle.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Ask someone who's into race biking what they think of Italian bikes.

To be clear I'm a mountain biker, and Italians have been out of that game for a long time. But it's my understanding that e.g. Bianchi and Campagnolo are very well respected.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah, this is fair. It could be that bikes are the upper limit to complexity. :)

Some friends of mine have experiences with very bad Italian bikes, but I think it's a matter of getting what you pay for. My own bad experiences has mostly been with French bikes...

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Don't forget Pinarello! Gorgeous and, last I checked, very well regarded. Just make sure your wallet is prepared


you can definitely drop $15k on a well-spec'd Pinarello Dogma.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Tbh coffee machines are up there as well. I think the weak side is when they need to implement software into things

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

How could i forget my Moka! I mostly drink filter coffee though, where I sadly go American with a Chemex. :(

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Most days you could say the same (though to a slightly lesser degree) about the Japanese.

Depending on the situation, I could consider that a feature. Considering we're all gathered to hate on American and chinese cloud-dependent crapware, there's something to be said for a decent product that's lagging behind on the high-tech side.

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