I suck at converting liberals (lemmygrad.ml)

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I was talking to a friend yesterday who is also a coder. His parents are Chinese from the region where Hong Kong is, but he was raised in America. And he kept saying that capitalism is not perfect, but is the best that we got and that there is not real freedom on socialism because you cannot vote the poliburo out and that Marxism has been tried and didn’t work out but that capitalism adapts to the real world with trial and error and blah blah.

No matter what I said, he wouldn’t yield. We spent an hour and a half on a discussion about it. It ended up with him saying “We are not going to convince each other so let’s stop”. Mind you that he was the one who kept asking me question but barely let me speak.

He was like “I read about Marxism, and I just realized that it doesn’t apply to the real world”

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Trust that the dialectic is always in motion

What do you mean by this?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Since you have a programming background, think of it like recursion. A function that runs, then calls itself has fundamentally changed inputs. Dialectics proceeds as spirals, this recursive loop is a cycle that always progresses quantitatively until the character qualitatively changes.

In practical example, as Capitalism decays, conditions quantitatively weaken for workers, which will eventually result in a qualitative shift in perspective and openness to new ideas.

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