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submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

This is not out in some rural town. This is in Portland, OR about 2 miles from downtown. Personal vehicles this large are simply incompatible with urban living and pressure their owners to continually break traffic law. Technically that Miata is parked as close to the stop sign as it can legally be, but as the Denali doesn't fit in many places around here it's owner is compelled to park across both the stop sign and the crosswalk.

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[-] [email protected] 40 points 4 days ago

I want a japanese kei car. They make the mazda look like it's a monster truck. Something like the Daihatsu Copen.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

At this point the only way you're ever getting me into a truck is one of those cute little fuckers

[-] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

My problem is I LOVE cars. I didn't realize this was c/fuckcars when I posted. Woops. Legitimately, I understand the consternation at huuuuuge SUVs and trucks like this. I drive to work (and I love it) - but the truck/suv to car ratio on the road is like 10:1. In the middle of the city... it's fucking stupid - and I look inside the vehicles. Always driven by a single person with no cargo. Ideally, I want a 1-person, 1-seater car. I want the stability of 4 wheels, the cage for protection/air conditioning, etc and nothing beyond that.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

My problem is I LOVE cars. I didn’t realize this was c/fuckcars when I posted. Woops.

Nah, you're fine. Don't tell anybody, but...

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...I'm secretly a "car guy" myself. There are dozens of us!

In all seriousness, there's absolutely no dichotomy between being a car enthusiast and hating how cities are designed to force normies to overuse cars. You are very much welcome here and in the right place.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago

My problem is I LOVE cars. I didn’t realize this was c/fuckcars when I posted. Woops.

Honestly, you are still in the right community.

Making sure that there are plenty of public transit options, and making it so that a car is not the only possible form of transportation helps get people who don't want to be a part of traffic out of traffic.

People who love to drive should really be the ones most loudly pushing for the end of car-dependency.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The slogan "fuck cars" is for grabbing attention, I think most of us understand that cars can have their place and many of us, me included, own a car. But cars as the de facto mode of transport and the de facto determining element in infrastructure design is incredibly harmful to society, especially in cities. Kei trucks are a great example of a car adapted for urban use and frustratingly, in the US there is a lot of legislation specifically against their use and they're essentially luxury vehicles due to the high import fees levied against them (Which is just insane, they're stripped-down utilitarian vehicles!). A lot of SUV and truck owners in cities would prefer a kei, yet they're made unobtainable by intentional legislation that incentivizes these huge blimp trucks.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I had a smart car for a while. I wish they had caught on, but they were seriously hampered by price and the goddamn transmission was indescribably bad. 1 person car is great and all but by the time you’ve got cargo space, a second seat is reasonable.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

The upcoming slate trucks are looking promising. About the size of a Kei truck, and absurdly customizable.

Hate the low default range though. 150 miles, and I have not yet researched the adoption rate of EV chargers for highway gas stops.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

I considered them too. They got everything nearly right, and then they put the HVAC controls on the touchscreen. If they fix that before mass production, I'll look again.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

If I see Telo, Aptera, or Slate, I upvote.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

150 is plenty for a truck that size. It's a round-town car, not a highway cruiser.

However, if you charge to 80% and keep 20% in reserve, you'll get 90 miles out of that 150mile battery. You'd be stopping about every hour and a half to charge for 15 minutes or so if you were doing a long trip.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

80% of 150 is 120 which is much more reasonable for an around the town car

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Yes. Don't forget about a 20% reserve. Deep discharge is bad for the battery too.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Fair point. Depends on how often it's happening

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Also the affiliation with Amazon sucks =\

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