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A reminder folks: people engage in this kind of radical protest because it works:

Results of two online experiments conducted with diverse samples (N = 2,772), including a study of the animal rights movement and a preregistered study of the climate movement, show that the presence of a radical flank increases support for a moderate faction within the same movement. Further, it is the use of radical tactics, such as property destruction or violence, rather than a radical agenda, that drives this effect. Results indicate the effect owes to a contrast effect: Use of radical tactics by one flank led the more moderate faction to appear less radical, even though all characteristics of the moderate faction were held constant. This perception led participants to identify more with and, in turn, express greater support for the more moderate faction. These results suggest that activist groups that employ unpopular tactics can increase support for other groups within the same movement, pointing to a hidden way in which movement factions are complementary, despite pursuing divergent approaches to social change.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

don’t alienate the public.

yes, yes, protest the safe way, never upset anyone, wouldn't want anyone to notice the outrage and tyranny if it meant a tad bit of inconvenience.

You know what they call sanctioned protests? the good ones, the ones that got approval first and won't upset anyone?

Parades.

This bullshit notion that no one can be inconvenienced for small things LIKE THE DEATH OF THE ECOSYSTEM or your REPUBLIC BURNING are moronic excuses the rich feed everyone else in order to maintain the status quo.

And you parroting the bullshit is doing their work for them. So keep licking the waffle soles of those boots, but don't fucking tell me what to do because I ain't listening to your bullshit

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

i think you misunderstood what i mean with alienating. I mean don't do things even reasonable people wouldn't support like blowing stuff up.

I specificially said dont play by their rules which includes not limiting yourself to sanctioned protests and such.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

we have one atmosphere. perhaps it's time to upset people's comfort zone if it means there's one for future generations.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

definitely, people have been really mild and toothless about this.

this post was submitted on 26 May 2025
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