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TechDirt: As Canada Passes Corrupt Link Tax, Meta Says No More News Links In Canada (www.techdirt.com)
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TechDirt’s Mike Masnick gets it exactly right in covering Canada’s C-18 bill:

If you believe in the open web, if you believe that you should never have to pay to link to something, if you believe that no one should have to pay to provide you a benefit, then you should support Meta’s stance here. Yes, it’s self-serving for Meta. Of course it is. But, even if it’s by accident, or a side-effect, it’s helping to defend the open web, against a ridiculous attack from an astoundingly ignorant and foolish set of Canadian politicians.

And just generally points out the huge holes in Heritage Minister Pablo Rodriguez understanding from the Power & Politics Interview.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Maybe. It depends on what's linked and how that affects the system. Linking isn't any different than downloading something which we know is ultimately copying information. There are nuances to copying in regards to copyright laws ethics, etc. And of course it wouldn't be Lemmy, the app, paying. Maybe not even Lemmy, the instance owner, or the poster since neither of them are profiting from that linking.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Linking is very different from downloading or copying. A link is only a reference to the content, not the content itself. The news site retains full control over the content. If the news site wants to make more money from visitors, they can use ads or paywalls.

And of course it wouldn’t be Lemmy, the app, paying. Maybe not even Lemmy, the instance owner, or the poster since neither of them are profiting from that linking.

What if an instance is getting enough donations to be considered profitable? Drawing the line at profitability just punishes success and efficiency.

BTW a lot of posts in c/canada have snippets copied from the linked articles. How is this any different from FB and google showing links and snippets?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Linking is very different from downloading or copying

It depends on the contents of the link. Is it a bare URL? Is it a text "click here"? Is it the title of the linked page? Is it a snippet of the linked page? You can quickly see how linking can incorporate copying depending on how it's done. As you acknowledge further down:

BTW a lot of posts in c/canada have snippets copied from the linked articles. How is this any different from FB and google showing links and snippets?

On the point of profitable instances:

What if an instance is getting enough donations to be considered profitable? Drawing the line at profitability just punishes success and efficiency.

When such a successful instance begins having a "significant bargaining power imbalance" (with news businesses), then it isn't and they'll become subject to the law and will have to negotiate payments.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I gave the bill a quick read.

It depends on the contents of the link. Is it a bare URL? Is it a text “click here”? Is it the title of the linked page? Is it a snippet of the linked page? You can quickly see how linking can incorporate copying depending on how it’s done.

I consider snippets copying, not linking, but let's agree to disagree on the terminology, because the bill covers anything from URLs to snippets anyway.

significant bargaining power imbalance

This is what the bill actually says, so we're small fish and get a free ride.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Exactly.

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