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Crab, we've been over this before, EVERY MONTH from becoming the candidate to the election Harris was advocating for an immediate cease fire, the release of hostages, and a two-state solution. Over, and over again.
Polar opposite of Trumps “sweep them out and take over.”
July: https://www.the-independent.com/tv/news/kamala-harris-says-two-state-solution-is-the-only-path-after-meeting-with-netanyahu-b2586161.html
August: https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/23/politics/gaza-israel-harris-convention-speech/index.html
September: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-harris-says-two-state-solution-end-of-israel-hamas-war-is-crucial
October: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/harris-dodges-direct-question-on-palestinian-deaths-calls-for-2-state-solution-during-cnn-town-hall/3372480
Could she PERSONALLY negotiate it as VP? No, the VP has no real power unless the Senate is stuck on a 50/50 vote.
Could she PERSONALLY negotiate it as a candidate for President? No, US civilians are blocked from engaging in diplomatic action.
So a) not a function of her job, b) not a function of her candidacy.
ALL she could do was talk about what she would do if elected 1) Immediate cease fire, 2) Hostage release, 3) Two-State solution. July, August, September, October.
The "BUH BUH GENOCIDE!!!" crowd completely ignored what she was saying because they didn't want to hear it, they are so crawled up inside their own assholes they can't hear anything.
biden falsely claimed to want an immediate ceasefire, hostage release, and a two state solution.
He also said he wanted to raise the minimum wage, pass all the stuff in BBB, revisit the public option, and reschedule cannabis. All were lies.
It became clear that his support for a ceasefire and a two state solution were always lies as well.
harris was one of the people closest to biden. She had to have witnessed his decline and had a responsibility to say something. She lied instead.
She also said that her policies were no different from biden's.
She could have shown some daylight between herself and biden on the issue, but there wasn't any. She ran as a continuation of biden because she was.
Harris is not Biden. Again, read her statements, month after month, after month. July, August, September, October.
She was far more likely to treat Netanyahu as the dishonest broker that he is. Biden was blinded by the history of Israel, Harris did not have that same handicap.
HER handicap was not being able to publicly diverge from Biden policy, she should have, but couldn't afford to alienate the Biden machine.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5191087-harris-trump-biden-harris/
So she publicly stated that Israel should stop, would fight to stop it more than Biden, and was pro-Palestine.
Right?
Exactly, she wanted a two-state solution and argued for it on multiple occasions as cited above.
Trump wanted waterfront real estate.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-gaza-riviera-echoes-kushner-waterfront-property-dreams-2025-02-05/
It doesn't matter what she SAY she want if she commited to sending bombs to one party.
Look mate I know it must be hard for you to realize you don't have a voice in this but maybe you should direct your outrage at the people in charge instead of policing what can be said about your favorite genociding party.
She said she wanted a two state solution.
She did fuck all to work towards it. The "two state solution" is a trope to enable Israel and has been long since before the genocide. It is not unique to the US. We hear it in Germany all the time followed by crickets when asked what the government wants to do, to actually move towards it. Fact is Harris denied an advocacy group for Palestinian rights to even speak at the DNC event, while Zionist lobby groups were welcomed to speak. It shows that the "two state solution" of Harris means to not even let Palestinians or people advocating for their rights speak, while amplifying Israeli propaganda.
Anyone who is serious about a two state solution would amplify Palestinian voices and provide the means to establish a Palestinian state while gutting Israels abilities to sabotage that, first of all by cutting all military and financial aid and enacting an arms and dual use embargo.
Harris has been lying the same lies like the US and other western countries governments have been lying for decades now. It is as obvious as the guys with the clowns mask and duffel bags entering a jewelry store not going to be there to make balloon animals.
Again, the VP HAS NO REAL POWER. The only role the VP has that has any effect whatsoever is when the Senate is stalled at a 50/50 tie. Other than that, the role is largely ceremonial.
So going into the election you had 2 candidates:
Who argued repeatedly for a cease fire, hostage release and two state solution for 4 consecutive months.
Who argued that the only thing Israel was doing wrong was not killing people fast enough.
We elected candidate #2.
When she was presidential candidate she could have allowed people speaking about Palestine at the DNC event. She chose against it. It is that low of a bar she chose to ran into instead of stepping over it. Not even letting people speak about the atrocities that are committed. Not even letting them say that Palestinians are also humans who deserve to life and that the US should not aid in annihilating them.
Also when she became presidential candidate she could have said she will do things different form Biden, instead of emphasizing that she will do more of the same. She could have told the DNC to stop arming Israel immediately and demand a full ceasefire and access for humanitarian aid. This would also have been nothing more than demanding that the US administration should uphold the law of the US, which prohibits arming people attacking and interfering with US aid. She could have threatened to step down, saying she would not be the face of more atrocities.
She didn't do any of that. She chose to repeat the same tired rhetoric while ensuring that not only the genocide machine stays well oiled, but the propaganda machine in the US too.
She could have, and watched the $100M AIPAC dollars turn against her in a heartbeat. She's not stupid.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/20/pro-israel-groups-gaza-us-elections
The Palestinians are on the right side of history, but they don't have the money to run a political campaign. AIPAC does. Not saying it's right or preferable, it's simply the fact of American politics.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/harris-says-she-wont-change-us-policy-on-arming-israel-stresses-need-for-hostage-deal/
Liar liar pants on fire
Weapons shipments aren't part of the deal, as I said, she repeatedly called for a cease fire, a hostage release, and a two-state solution.
Israel has the right to defend itself from repeated attacks by Iran, we will continue supplying weapons to do that, what Israel chooses to do with those supplies is on them, not us.
I don't believe that.
We would totally do the right thing, but for this stuff going on behind the scenes.
"No no trust us, I'm against Israel's genocide, I'm just not gonna use any influence to stop it, I'm not going to make it part of my campaign, I'm going to tell people protesting the genocide to shut up and that I'm speaking. I am clearly anti-genocide, just let me keep with Biden's pro-genocide polices."
Whether you "believe" it or not is irrelevant. It was her position as stated publicly multiple times. That problem is yours, not hers.
In the end though, the desire to "save" Gaza will result in the extermination of Gaza because you simply wouldn't listen. Good jorb!
If the dems had not known they could count on their base for being cowards, they might have considered the electoral implication of bombing civilians.
For what it worth i don't even think you're an asshole. You have been propagandized. Deprogram yourself man idk
https://www.timesofisrael.com/harris-says-she-wont-change-us-policy-on-arming-israel-stresses-need-for-hostage-deal/
Liar liar pants on fire
biden said the exact same shit while shoveling weapons at netanyahu. there was no daylight between biden and harris on this issue.
democrats wouldn't listen to the people who didn't want genocide. we were too insignificant to listen to.
So we're too insignificant to blame. But blaming anyone else might require the party to abandon the only policy it has actually stood for in the past 40 years.
And again, Harris is not Biden. Two different people.
And again, she offered no change on Gaza from biden. one policy.
4 consecutive months. Cease fire, hostage release, two state solution. Everything the anti-Genocide people wanted.
"Buh buh wE dOnT bElIeVe YoU!!!11!11"
And so we get Mr. "Do it faster, it's making you look bad."
Everything biden said while selling weapons for genocide.
The ONLY thing harris had to say was that she would put conditions, ANY conditions on selling weapons to netanyahu.
There was and remains no difference whatsoever between biden and harris on Gaza. Everything the pro-genocide centrists wanted. And there has never been and never will be another kind of centrist.
Biden was NEVER selling weapons for genocide.
Biden believes, correctly, that Israel has the right to defend itself from repeated attacks by Iran, we will continue supplying weapons to do that, what Israel chooses to do with those supplies is on them, not us.
Should Biden have cut the supply when Israel proved to be a bad actor? Absolutely, but that doesn't change the fact that Israel, as a soverign nation, has the right to defend itself and the US will 100% support that as we always have.
What they are doing in Gaza is not defensive, it's absolutely offensive in every sense of the word, but that's on Israel, not Biden.