this post was submitted on 14 May 2025
991 points (98.9% liked)
memes
14755 readers
3959 users here now
Community rules
1. Be civil
No trolling, bigotry or other insulting / annoying behaviour
2. No politics
This is non-politics community. For political memes please go to [email protected]
3. No recent reposts
Check for reposts when posting a meme, you can only repost after 1 month
4. No bots
No bots without the express approval of the mods or the admins
5. No Spam/Ads
No advertisements or spam. This is an instance rule and the only way to live.
A collection of some classic Lemmy memes for your enjoyment
Sister communities
- [email protected] : Star Trek memes, chat and shitposts
- [email protected] : Lemmy Shitposts, anything and everything goes.
- [email protected] : Linux themed memes
- [email protected] : for those who love comic stories.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
You don't have to enable any of those things, though. I don't even have W11 signed into a MS account. I use W11 mostly for C++ development these days though.
Don't you understand that being constantly nagged to use their products so they can monotise you is disrespectful? Would you keep a friend who started every conversation with a pitch for their MLM? I mean you're not obligated!
I understand that it's just business, but to me that's just capitalist Nirenberg defense. So please don't respond with some version of "it is what it is", because I view that as learned helplessness.
EDIT: what Windows users might not get is that booting into Windows occasionally means that it's going to bombard you with an avalanche of pop ups and nag-dialogues that a person who's logging in every day might not appreciate.
Sure you can silence most of that, until the next necessary security update.
I'm not sure what you're talking about because I just don't get any of those.
And I never get popups for them. I main Xubuntu but probably spend half my time in Windows 11 for software development and W11 is basically just a visual studio machine for me. I upgraded my CPU recently and it's pretty snappy now, too!
I'm not saying your view is wrong, I'm just saying that your experience has been completely different from mine apparently
The overwhelming majority of the nags can be disabled permanently with the right configuration, in a way that isn't trampled on by updates.
The main issue is that because Microsoft doesn't have anywhere close to sane defaults, many people believe it isn't possible to configure sanely.
It also doesn't help that Microsoft has crossed the threshold where there's too many people using it who think they know what they're doing well enough to speak authoritatively about its "issues" when they don't. Lots of Dunning Kreuger going on.
And that MS torched a ton of their learning resources for desktop config and admin stuff when they went all in on the cloud and are only now recreating some of them.
And people try to use it outside of the intended use case then get frustrated that things get weird. It's configired to be a daily driver or at least powered on once a week for updates, of course if you only use it every few months things are going to suck. You'd get laughed at if you were using a hammer to drive screws, but Windows is supposed to just work anyway with no rough edges?
One should never need to hack their own computer to disable nags. Full fucking stop.
An operating system isn't a car or a machine that needs to maintain running hours for optimal performance. If I have an operating system that I only need for one specific function, and only use it for that function, once or twice a month, there is no reason that that operating system should fail to do the one thing I need it to do every time I turn it on.
An OS is like a car or a machine in the sense that it needs regular maintenance. You can ignore that regular maintenance at your own peril, but it's not the car manufacturer's fault if you refuse to change the oil. Or if you decide to camber your tires out to a ridiculous angle and it breaks the wheel bearings.
Stepping back from your analogy, the only way that Windows is going to fail to play your game because you haven't updated is if the game needs to update too. And if it's that important to you, you can disable updates entirely and only re-enable them when it suits you. Only booting up Windows once a month is pretty damn good use case for that. Disable updates, play your game, re-enable them and let it do its thing when you're done.
Windows is definitely not ideal, but there is a lot of people spreading learned helplessness solely for the sake of pushing Linux. Linux is absolutely better, but Windows is not some festering boil that provides the sensory equivalent of nails on chalkboard if you use it correctly/as designed.
Another big thing people complain about is ads in the various system utilities. Hell yes that's disgusting. However, all of those ads are disabled by a single option in the settings menu that doesn't reset itself on update.