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We elected a black man president in 2008, then suddenly got too racist. Sure, that makes perfect sense. It couldn't possibly be the platforms the Democrats were running on. /s
I’m not sure if you’re replying to me but it doesn’t seem like you’re replying to what I said.
Sort of. It's not like we elected James Brown.
Holy fuck. Centrists are so goddamned desperate to run with their "we have to shut out AOC because the US is racist (until she's no longer a threat to our hegemony)" narrative that they're pretending Obama isn't Black.
I remember whites saying he was too black, poc saying he was too white, and leftists saying he's too corporate.
I remember centrists calling Bill Clinton the "first black president." Guess they don't want to give up the title.
Omg I don't remember that. The real oppression, amirite?! 🤦♀️
Obama has a white mother, and was raised by her exclusively in a city that is less than 3% black. Eminem is blacker than Obama.
Racists are well known for tolerance of mixed race children. /s
Double down more. It illustrates my point.
You had a point?
I can't help that you're determined to miss it.
Well it helps that I don't really give a shit what you think
Oh word we can call black people "not black" because they don't "act black" or aren't "dark enough" again? Back in my day that was a racism.
Or is it because he's mixed? 'Cause that'd be less surprising, historically they've been shunned by both racial communities and have trouble identifying with either, and afaict we haven't caught up to the whole "maybe that's racist too" thing yet and they can still safely be considered "not really black" by black people and simultaneously "not really white" by white people now that the whole "one drop" business is over. Schrödinger's Race and all.
We can certainly point out that a person raised by a white parent in a city with less than three percent black people doesn't really embody the typical black experience.
Do you believe he would have gotten elected if he grew up in Detroit and spoke with an affect? If so, you have way more faith in American voters than I do.
Yeah I'm sure he never heard that before. Sorry he's not black enough for you.
I don't give a shit what he's heard. What a strange thing to say.
It's not like James Brown is likely to run in 2028, so what's your point?
The reason we have a fascist groundswell in this country is the same reason any country has ever had a fascist groundswell.
My point is we elected the whitest black guy we could possibly find and even then it took 230 years. We still have a long way to go before we pat ourselves on the back.
When did I suggest back pats?
We didn't "suddenly get too racist". The US was no more likely to elect a black presenting president in 2008 than we are now. Even one with Obama's gravitas.
Exactly. A minority candidate absolutely can win, as long as they can rally Democratic voters.
I hope you're right but I have my doubts.