At worst, we might overreact to the propaganda by deliberately swallowing the Russian narrative, but I think that it's also not true that we are uncritically following the Russian narrative

Perfect. Yes and I will take the opposite for myself. At worst I might swallow the mainstream western narrative but its not true that I think uncritically and I fact I actively seek out alternative information just like in this conversation.

Also, in my own comments I think I've done a good job of showing that there has been, indeed, a fascist coup of Ukraine in 2014, that was ethnically cleansing Russian speaking minorities and threatens all the same minorities that nazis always threaten.

When we went through it, the people you had claimed were being ethnically cleansed from what I saw turned out to be armed Russian proxies who had been fighting in Donetsk for 2 years (2014) before Ukraine bombed them (article from 2016).

You've provided evidence there was collateral damage when Ukraine was fighting a separation/civil war instigated by the Russian invasion in 2014. Not that minorities were targeted or that ethnic cleansing took place.

You didn't provide evidence there was a fascist coup, in fact the opposite? You suggested there was an American backed coup to install American friendly people in power (Victoria Nyland)?

And btw, everyone padding adjectives into everything is driving me nuts.

Sometimes the discussion breaks down to "The neo nazi Ukrainian regime pulled a fascist coup and you're too propagandized to see it"

Can't you just say "the Ukrainian government pulled a coup"?