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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

US foreign policy basically created Russia as it exists today, an imperialist capitalist country with it's own ruling class competing for the world's resources. So just as all imperialist hegemons have done, Russia is invading a sovereign nation. As always there's a context that embodies the politics of the time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

US created modern russia

(and everything else that happened since 1989 that goes beyond america bad)

modern russia is an imperialist country that competes for the world resources

(it has never stopped being so and Poland+Baltics warned us and we didn't listen)

There's a context, but the fact is that countries should be stopped from invading (and annexing) other countries, no matter what their sob story is.

If some disturbed kid goes on a rampage on a school, first you stop the shooting, then you investigate wtf caused it to start and stop it happening again, maybe some other school kids bullied him...none of it matters once it got to the shooting part.

I could say the same for Napoleon, for Hitler, for Vietnam, hey look, here's Chomsky on that:

https://chomsky.info/20060109/

The United States went to war in Vietnam for a very good reason. They were afraid Vietnam would be a successful model of independent development and that would have a virus effect—infect others who might try to follow the same course. There was a very simple war aim—destroy Vietnam. And they did it.

When you take the context into account, maybe it helps understand why it's happening, but it's still a war crime that has to be stopped.

PS: if you think the world can withstand going back to 18th century multipolar conquest politics with nuclear weapons on the table, you don't appreciate the miserable suffering that means for most of us. The nuclear era only allows one or 2 poles, more than that and you get an unstable solution. So russia better stop it, go back and cozy up to China, because it's not getting its empire back if we can help it (that's one of the few things China and the US agree on).