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Do you count Bluesky as the Fediverse? Why?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thats exactly what it sounds like, a "bridge". An island doesnt stop being an island because it is connected to mainland with a bridge. You could also bridge twitter or facebook to mastodon, but that wouldnt make them part of the fediverse.

A bridge is just a piece of software that receives data from one protocol and re-formats it into another protocol. You could bridge SMS to bluesky if you wanted.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Okay, but is bluesky at least a setting stone for people to be in a slightly better place than Faceook or Twitter? I don't like Bluesky as the next Fediverse user, especially as they've went out of there way to create a protocol that's unsecure and a platform that is semi-centralised but people are learning about alternatives like us from them what is at least helpful in someway.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

It's better in some ways for now. All commercial social media platforms start out by being less bad than the competition. That's how they attract users. When they have enough of a user base for network effects to take hold, that's when they enshittify.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

at least a setting stone for people to be in a slightly better place than Faceook or Twitter?

No, not really. It has already started caving to Turkish political censorship requests for example. They are implementing checkmark bullshit and from the start they required you to have an account to view all content.

but people are learning about alternatives like us

99% of bluesky users have never heard of the fediverse or anything like that. They just blindly follow the herd to the next platform like always. In a few years bluesky will turn to complete shit and then they will once again jump to the next garbage platform.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

They've already started heading that direction step by step

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

A bridge is the first step in the "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" pattern. A Fediverse only works when no one node can dominate all the others. It's why, even though Meta's Threads platform was/is actually Federated (in that it uses ActivityPub), everyone defederated from them because it's a poison pill for the whole network.

For more info on how that eventually happens, this article gives some past examples.