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Hi all,

Moving away from USA solutions I also want a good European vpn. I contracted GOOSE because it's from my country, but their servers are spotty on mobile and I regularly have connection issues on my Linux.

I want a stable VPN, streaming and P2P enabled, from a European provider. Who has good options? Must be Linux compatible either through an app or OpenVPN/WireGuard.

Is proton a good option?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Why I recommend Proton is because it works well on Linux. Maybe the app is not as nice but it works well enough for me to recommend. But you are way too biased now to the point that you are claiming that proton is a honeypot. Anything you say after that means absolutely nothing.

Even despite of that I have read your angry post and man:

If you use windows over linux (or BSD): you do not care about your privacy.

Or you have to use it at work. Or you have some critical application that you can not run on linux. Or you are not technical enough to switch to linux (believe it or not, many people never installed an OS, even if its dead simple, for some people its different world).

Protonโ€™s entire ecosystem prioritizes windows at this current time. Full stop.

So what. You know how much money development costs. Proton is fully funded by their users/customers. If they focus on Linux they die.

therefore if you buy into protonโ€™s ecosystem, lured in by the advertising of โ€œprivacyโ€

Privacy is privacy. If its e2e encrypted including most viable metadata its private. There are no quotes around that. Privacy is also a scale, not all or nothing. Because some people tell you the latter, you have then a feeling like there is no point. Your statements are essentially indirectly causing people not wanting to do even a smallest improvement in their privacy.

you are incentivized to remain on Windows, because the experience you are paying for is better there, while thinking you have privacy

If you are thinking about privacy to the point of leaving gmail and using protonmail or using vpn there is a chance that eventually you switch to linux. And even if not. You increased your privacy. Users that are on windows might never think about privacy if the first step would be as huge as OS change.

honeypot

You obviously do not know what honeypot means.

Thatโ€™s why in my opinion, proton doesnโ€™t give a shit about their users privacy

Well everyone is entitled to an opinion, even if its a wrong opinion based on their own bias.

iโ€™m done trying to help people in this thread

Dismissing valid options is not helping.