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Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Just for fun I decided to make a map of what I think a post Union American might look like

  • Free America: Collection of Liberal forces mostly backed by California, they have become so successful that they conquered traditionally conservative territory
  • Republic of Texas: Self explanatory, undemocratic Oligarchy and relatively successful
  • Union of American States: Loose union of agricultural states, highly unstable. Each state basically acts in their own intrests at the expense of the union.
  • United Confederacy of America: Ruled by a strongman dictator, economically semi-liberal, politically authoritarian, religiously fundamentalist (under the new United Church of America). Contains elements of Fascism, oligarchy, theocracy, classical fascism, liberalism, and corporatism. United States of America: Compromise centrist Democrat attempts to reconsolidate the nation, he fails. Whats left of the US is just shadowy forces consisting of the military (or parts of it), corporations, intelligence, and unkown government personal. Nobody knows who the president is, nobody knows whos in the senate, all people know is that resistance is illegal and so is resisting. They have no clear goals other than unification, they have no clear government policy, they recognize nobody, and they are held together exclusively through force and emergency wartime powers (the constitution is officially still in place but an amendment is passed that efficiency disables it indefinitely).
  • Republic of Canada: Liberal Canadian government but highly unstable due to influx of American refugees and war
  • Republic of Alaska: Its called Alaska but thats just the name, in reality its more of a broad coalition. They establish a classical liberal government but suffer from extreme instability. They also sell guns to Free America (smuggled from Russia)
  • Republic of Hawaii: Hawaii but an Independent Republic, parliamentary and vaugly social Democratic
  • Free Canada: Collection of Canadian troops who lost contact with the main army. They are actively working to reestablish contacts and reunite.
  • Confederation of Canada: Following Liberal rule the Canadian Conservatives formed a far-right authoritarian state.
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Disappointing. These maps usually show Canada eating into the northern USA states, especially in the west.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I get dividing the US after a civil war. But Canada?

And MAYBE Texas on it's own would not last long until Mexico "reclaims" it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Canada is suffering from internal division as well, especially if a massive influx of American refugees arrive (which the Canadian government will not be prepared for). Additionally I doubt Mexico can win a war against Texas especially considering their instability.