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Fediverse vs Disinformation

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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.


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Same as instance rules, plus:

  1. No disinformation
  2. Posts must be relevant to the topic of astroturfing, propaganda and/or disinformation

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Video is infuriating. It's amazing these people exist. Like "The Dark Crystal".

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

in a just world, every person on that panel who dismissed her concerns would have a black bag pulled over their head and they'd wake up in a prison in El Salvador.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

No. In a just world, that prison wouldn't exist.

Human rights abuses aren't justice no matter who they're committed against.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 minutes ago

the fascists should stand trial at the hague as is tradition

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Yes because I remember how the allies defeated the Nazis...with kind words.

Some times those that hurt others only understand the rule of the jungle.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I remember how the allies defeated the Nazis...with kind words.

It wasn't by throwing them in concentration camps either

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Because people wanting to fight fascist have???? Suggested that? I'm a bit confused with your comment here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

From the beginning of this chain, the comment I believe you were defending

in a just world, every person on that panel who dismissed her concerns would have a black bag pulled over their head and they'd wake up in a prison in El Salvador.

I feel like "well they did it first!" Is a weak and childish justification for acting exactly like ones' enemies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yes because I remember how the allies defeated the Nazis...with kind words.

Holy false dichotomy, Batman! Starting out with a fallacy that bad, I'm hesitant to read on..

Some times those that hurt others only understand the rule of the jungle.

😮‍💨 Should have followed my instincts and spared myself the rallying cry of every violent vigilante and vaguely bigoted Crusader 🙄

No person or society is ever improved by answering atrocities with atrocities.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago

Lol you keep thinking that while people are being killed.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Justice isn't necessarily a utopian ideal. Justice only cares about fairness/equality, not what is humane.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Justice only cares about fairness/equality, not what is humane.

Not true. Inhumane treatment is by definition never fair and thus never just.

That you consider that a "utopian ideal" rather than the minimum requirement for civilized humans says a lot about you and whatever society has warped your worldview.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I think it says more about your reading comprehension than anything.

Justice not necessarily being a utopian ideal means "Justice" isn't necessary for a utopia. "The maintenance or administration of what is just, especially by the impartial adjustment of conflicting claims or the assignment of merited rewards or punishments"(Merriam-Webster) isn't necessary in a utopia. In fact, it's counterintuitive. "Justice" doesn't care if you stole for fun or [perceived] necessity. "Justice" doesn't care if you killed someone for self-defense, anger, or a casual disregard for human life.

Justice and what you're envisioning are as different from each other as "social equality" is from "social equity".

But it was cool of you to take time to climb atop your high horse before misunderstanding.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago

Great idea! Whose car should we take?