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[–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

regulate harshly and with a 50s style tax

Isn't this argument 'free-market but with guardrails' or did I misunderstand?

What do you mean by "personal property"? That monopolistic land ownership is okay so long as it's individuals not businesses?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Im arguing that the system we do have has the tools to get closer to the ideal world most of us want. Not exactly pro-free market, but its the system we have and we should use it if its what we have.

    Regulation and heavy tax on the rich could do a lot for the proles. That in itself is pretty social, but its not as dramatic as marx would like.

    What do you mean by "personal property"? That monopolistic land ownership is okay so long as it's individuals not businesses?

    No man, I'm saying monoplies are bad but the government can't seize citizens personal property for no reason and without compensation.

    I will disagree with a communist who says personal property shouldnt exist, but agree that businesses need to have their power and ownership regulated heavily

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    it's the system we have and we should use it

    That was Thomas Jefferson's justification for the continuation of slavery.

    Regulation and heavy taxes

    This assumes a world where regulatory capture is not the default state of things.

    the government can't seize citizens personal property for no reason and without compensation.

    That "no reason" is extremely vague and allows it to be one of the primary underlying argument against taxes and regulations.

    Disagree with personal property shouldnt exist, but agree that businesses need to have their power and ownership regulated heavily

    But without also limiting the power and ownership of individuals we loop right back to feudalism and the exact issues these systems were designed to solve.

    What is your understanding of what "personal property" is like under some idealistic, utopian communism?

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