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    [โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    You are contradicting yourself.

    I already admitted my previous statement being bad.

    You are looking for a walled garden that protects its users.

    No, I don't. There's a difference between a walled garden and a safe environment, the word itself even says it. Windows, iOS etc. outright build closed boxes you can't escape. The Linux community rightfully doesn't like that, but to a degree where we hardly even have proper safety rails next to cliffs and either no or insufficient warning labels next to exposed 11kV powerlines. Yet we expect people who don't know what they see to not hurt themselves and instead stand still and study books for a few weeks. Even worse, in an attempt to keep answers as universal as possible the correct answers often are that "it's easy, just hook up X to the 11kV powerline" (equal to editing grub.conf, xorg.conf, or anything else that could literally kill your system or user-essential parts like the graphical interface).

    I'm so fed up with the notion that any change that adds safety rails is seen as building walls. Just because you have to add "--no-preserve-root" to delete your root folder you're not prevented from destroying your OS if you want to (people seriously argued against this change). Improving the apt warning so humans pick it up is not a wall either.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    You seem to know a lot. So why not make those changes yourself? If you want bigger flashier warnings then do it. There is nothing stopping you. Depending on your skill you could have had it done in less time than you spent on this meme and thread.

    Iโ€™m not trying to be argumentative but you sound like you want the linux community to build what you want and disregard their own wants. In addition, you want the community to be extra super nice to you when they do it. The sense of entitlement is astounding.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Whatever you need to tell yourself about people voicing criticism the community culture to shut it down. I'm already contributing to the best of my abilities, so please stop with the "just fix it yourself" nonsense. Not even professionals like Torvalds would have the ability to to all that. Hell, not even companies can; System76 ends up creating a whole new DE because the cultural and structural issues with Gnome were so severe, and they're working on it for years now (arguably they could've moved to KDE, a new DE without old baggage might be a good idea though). Some parts of the Linux community even are so toxic they're famous for ripping each other apart regularly, like the Kernel devs.

    It's this whole culture and the bad decisions it causes I'm criticizing. And the only way to change anything about such a thing literally is to loudly criticize it, and to introduce new people with new perspectives. Who unfortunately more often than not get alienated by all the toxicity.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

    Not even professionals like Torvalds would have the ability to to all that

    To change the warning? Are you serious? Thatโ€™s basic stuff. Like really basic.