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[-] gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 9 months ago

I don't think that person was arguing in good faith since many means of production are currently state-owned in governments that are not communist (France owns their energy corporation, for example).

The reason why a state planning for communism would even need state-owned industry is to transition from a capitalist mode of production to one that is socialist. When that is complete, the state is theoretically supposed to transition to communism wherein the ownership of industry would be transferred to worker's co-ops and other worker-run organizations, such as trade unions.

We all know how poorly theory often translates to practice (i.e., successfully transitioning from capitalism to socialism to communism is very difficult for numerous internal and external reasons), but the comment in the OP photo demonstrates kind of a misguided understanding of how state ownership and socialism (in the modern European sense and in the Marxist-Leninist sense) are supposed to work.

Any nation with any type of economy can become corrupt without needing to own any means of production at all.

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