Political Memes

Giving this one last shot. Hope you read it in good faith.

I think you're taking my criticism of conflicts between oligarchs and coming to some conclusion not based in class conflict but in nation state conflict. You're trying to attribute it in a conflict between nations and no leftist will ever see wars outside of class dynamics. It's useless for us. This is not a win loss conflict. It is a loss loss conflict for the working class of each nation. But especially Ukraine.

I think it's why you likely confuse criticism of NATO with being a support of Russia. Something this entire conversation started with. Which is likely why you think PSL supports Russia. We don't.

I correctly see this conflict as two nation states using their working class to accomplish the goals of capital. One that is supported by the worlds largest military but struggling to keep it's support. And another that found aggressive action to be the best for its capitalist interests.

We acknowledge the aggressive party in this conflict is Russia. And condemn them in that aspect. But also understand the the material conditions that lead to this conflict and criticize NATO and America for their policy of "fighting until the last Ukrainian".

We want an end to the conflict. Not a war for wars sake. We acknowledge that the only benefit to more Ukraine's dying is to capitalist interest. To the war machine of the US.

There is no winning in a conflict between oligarchs. Only the working class of Ukraine suffer here.

All wars end in a treaty of some sort. And it should be up to the people of Ukreaine to decide that end. Something that the US has actively prevented. Encouraging Ukraine fight on with their milk toast support. So now it is being decided by a western war machine that is enjoying using them for a proxy war and abandoning them when it no longer serves their interest.

Support of Ukrain is not dependent on agreeing with the oligarchs of America. It is, quite frankly, contradictory to it.

No one with "power" in this conflict has the Ukraine people's interest at heart. It is why I called it a "conflict between oligarchs". And it's why I gave you a sarcastic reply to you're very ignorant comment.

I want an end to the war. An end to dying young men. And to do that you must be critical of both Oligarchs that continue this conflict for their own selfish interests. And of course, as someone that lives in the US and sees my leaders milk this conflict for their own self interest, of course I'm going to be critical to the country I live in.

My criticisms of Russia mean nothing. I have no say or influence in them. My activism is directed at the oligarchs and ruling class of my own nation. As I hope is being done by the leftist in Ukraine and Russia as well.

This is not support of Russia. This is solidarity between class. I will fight against the the oligarchs and their interest in my state and criticize their selfish profit driven incentives. As I know class conscious people are doing in Ukraine and Russia alike.