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[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Democrats do not and never have had open border policies.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They should work on their public image on that then. Biden kept saying he was working on it but it was complicated and he needed Congress to act. More than ten million entered during his term. Trump cut the rate more than 90% very quickly without action from Congress, mostly by being a hostile asshole and directing agencies to act in kind. Biden's policies towards them were a welcome mat. Trump has gone too far the other way, but no one can deny Biden's border policy affected the election.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would like to see some sources for that number.

I'm not denying that the perception of the border changed things. But it's not Biden's fault people don't seem to get news about it from anywhere but Fox.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've seen numbers reported between 8 million and 12 million, with variation leaning high or low by R or D bias, but even 8 million is not far from what I said. Here's a government source, although this was written before the end of his term:

https://homeland.house.gov/2024/05/22/startling-stats-factsheet-biden-administration-on-track-to-reach-10-million-encounters-nationwide-before-end-of-fiscal-year/

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Encountered."

A word that is nowhere in the article or any of those it links to defined.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 2 weeks ago

The lowest estimate I could find was 7.8 million. If you want to go with that, fine. Or show me I'm wrong. Do you really think it wasn't happening?