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    They'll cast you back to the Windows realm with all their toxic might (discuss.tchncs.de)
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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    my friend, I want to impart something on you. I write this with the sincere hope it changes your mind.

    The average user of a computer does not want to even think about the operating system it uses.

    Most people, myself included, want to work on our computer, not work on our computer (which is why I use Mint). An operating system should be the software version of a motherboard -- an invisible plinth upon which all the other things you actually care about, sit. In a hardware context the things you care about are all the components plugged into the motherboard -- your GPU, CPU, RAM, storage devices, and so on. In a software context, this is email, web browsing, video games, and office software, the programs the average user actually gives a shit about. Notice: Nowhere in that list does it say getting up into the systems guts via terminal or command prompt or whatever flavor of blinking cursor you prefer. Most users just want their programs to run and to never think about the underlying system, and that is okay. Not everyone needs to be technical, and shouldn't have to be to use a computer and reap the full benefits of using one. I choose to be because I'm a fucking spaz, but that doesn't mean someone who doesn't want to be should instead be condemned to inferior offerings from the likes of Microsoft and Apple. If Linux were, indeed, the best -- as Microsoft seems determined to prove via Windows enshittification -- then it should be, ideally, just as easy for nontechnical people to pick up as Windows. If it isn't, that's a problem with Linux that is yet to be solved, not a problem with people.

    Fortunately, my experience using Mint for the past year has been largely exactly that. It's very close to that ideal, if not already there -- I've had a few very minor issues, but, nothing I was unable to fix via a quick internet search.

    I say all this in the hope you'll understand, if you want Linux to take off, it needs to be accessible to the average idiot. It must be, because I don't know if you've seen the news, but we are not cumulatively getting smarter.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

    The average user of a computer does not want to even think about the operating system it uses.

    That is certainly true.

    Not everyone needs to be technical, and shouldn’t have to be to use a computer and reap the full benefits of using one. I choose to be because I’m a fucking spaz, but that doesn’t mean someone who doesn’t want to be should instead be condemned to inferior offerings from the likes of Microsoft and Apple. If Linux were, indeed, the best – as Microsoft seems determined to prove via Windows enshittification – then it should be, ideally, just as easy for nontechnical people to pick up as Windows. If it isn’t, that’s a problem with Linux that is yet to be solved, not a problem with people. [...] I say all this in the hope you’ll understand, if you want Linux to take off, it needs to be accessible to the average idiot.

    You seem to be misinterpreting what I am saying.

    I am not here as a Linux evangelical, trying to spread the ~~Source Code~~ Word of Linus. It's admirable that you want that, you should contribute to the many open source projects that are bringing that closer to reality.

    I'm here as a user of Linux trying to read Linux memes in c/linuxmemes and so I focus my attention on the present state of being a user in Linux, not some hypothetical reality that, though desirable, doesn't yet exist.

    In the current state of things, Linux is not for everyone. It is a good operating system, but not everyone has the time to use it. I will certainly tell people of the advantages that it has over Windows and, for those capable, I will recommend it.

    For the people that choose to use Linux today, the 1st of April in the Year of our Lord 2025: you will have to use the Terminal. It isn't optional. Nor, despite the griping of newbies, is it a difficult thing to learn and you should become comfortable with it if you want to be a successful user of Linux. Artificially limiting yourself to GUI applications is going to make the operating system seem less capable than it actually is and you will be frustrated by a much larger set of problems.

    Until that glorious day in The Future when the universal GUI DE comes out, learn to use the terminal.