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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's not correct. I have ethanol-free petrol for my chainsaw that has a shelf life of 5 years guaranteed (probably lasts longer, since that's from the time of purchase)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Not everyone knows that ethanol is simply worse for fuel efficiency and only exists to be a corn subsidy for farmers. I know E85 tuning exists which is cool but it’s still mostly trash.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yah. The fact that we're turning edible food into worse gas, and thereby driving up food prices worldwide for no reason, is nothing short of inhumane. It's not even a reduction in greenhouse gas; it requires so much processing that it's about the same as just pumping crude out of the ground.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It would have made more sense to just pay farmers more with subsidies, instead oil lobbyist tricked ag lobbyist into accepting this deal (or more likely bribed them).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hmmm, interesting. Looks like there's some fuel stabilizers that can preserve it for a few years (most of what I can find are for 1-3 years). I'm guessing the 5-year blend has a shorter shelf life once opened? The really interesting part seems to be that some of these stabilizers can be added to old gasoline to make it usable again. So as long as an organization had an utterly gigantic supply of stabilizer, they could potentially keep using gas for quite a while.

These stabilizers are definitely not in regular gasoline, though, so everyone except the extremely paranoid would be SOL.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Stabilizers are marketing BS, they can't rejuvenate old fuel and they generally work by introducing an additional component that reduces the ability of the fuel (mostly the methanol content) to absorb water ... however they rarely have a positive effect over all because they cause other problems.

Long shelf-life fuel is made in the refining stage. European standard E10 petrol can last a year or more if it's stored correctly ... I know this because I sometimes do store it for that long by accident.