A Boring Dystopia

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[–] sawdustprophet@midwest.social 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

one tactic is for him to serve as VP under someone else who promises to resign to allow Trump to serve again

According to the 12th amendment, "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

This seems pretty plain to me: if you can't serve as president, you also can't serve as vice president. Of course, this has never been tested in court...

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[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

That's interesting. When I was reading the Constitution, I didn't read it the same way. I thought that the basic rules (age, citizenship, etc.) were what applied since obtaining office and serving office were distinct in my mind. I like your reading better but I have a feeling SCOTUS wouldn't read it the same way you do.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

You should read the whole thing before forming opinions.

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just not holding elections due to some sort of national emergency is a tried and true method.

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[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

No, he'll just issue an executive order that gets rid of term limits. Who's going to remove him?

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[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

We held elections in the middle of the Civil War and made sure soldiers could vote. If Lincoln could do it then, we can do it now. I'll fight to make sure we have elections, and I hope others do the same.

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but Lincoln wanted elections. It's different if the President doesn't want them.

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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Trump is inelagable to be president after their second term, the line of succession would jump to Johnson.

Never been tested in court tho so I'm sure it'd get by. But at that point why even care about the rules?

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[–] AJ1@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

inelagable

that's a new one lol

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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

ineligible I think.

I was high and couldn't for the life of me spell it

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[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

been there, my guy. i was playing stardew valley while high and ordered spaghetti from Gus, only to find out that i wouldn't actually get spaghetti in real life. it was a sad moment.

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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

🤣

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[–] withabeard@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He's making a lot of noise about Zelensky not going to the polls. So ...

War, he's talking about taking America to war so strongly they can't have an election.

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[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

I guess that makes sense. I have a very firm feeling he is going to intentionally provoke a war against China. That war might already be brewing but he is much more likely to take us into it than almost anyone else.

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[–] Manalith@midwest.social 1 point 1 year ago

If I had to guess at motivation for war with China it would be that Putin sees China as a threat and would like to use the US to weaken them either before they attack or to prevent China from more closely focusing on Russia.

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[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

The supreme court has already ruled that the 14th amendment isn't self executing and congress is required to disqualify someone from being president.

The legal argument holds for any decision about presidential eligibility. So Trump can just stand and see if congress are brave enough to disqualify him in an open vote.

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[–] ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

Trump could claim that his term as 45th and his term as 47th are recognized as separate offices of President. Thus, he would get one extra term as 47th's second term.

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[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Thus opening the door for some sort of Clinton-Bush type of future scenario where a Democrat and Republican are buddies behind the scenes and just keep running for one term and alternating for 20-odd years.