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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    I was specifically trying to not sound conspiratorial. I'm pointing out that it's a matter of having learned a paradigm vs having to learn a new paradigm.

    Devs have already gotten used to CLI and very rarely make full P&CI suites because of it. Even if the original Dev only did CLI for the app and someone came back and made a P&CI for that app, those P&CI interfaces are still fairly barebones. This is both a mix of devs knowing how good CLI can be and because it's all open source volunteer work.

    Layman users of P&CI-focused DEs actively avoid CLI so they don't have to learn it. This means that using most Linux apps are something to be avoided for most Windows users, making the OS base mostly unusable for them.

    To be clear, when I am talking about P&CI-focused DEs, like windows and iOS, I mean that if you cannot perform an action with the P&CI, then that action essentially does not exist for the average user. Contrast that with Linux DEs, where it's quite common to have to directly edit configs or use the CLI to perform various actions.

    As a veteran user, CLI does not bother me. I do understand the frustration of those who want some Linux DEs to become as default as Windows and iOS, because lack of P&CI does damage that effort.

    This is not every app in Linux obvi, but the ones that are best at making sure the P&CI is full-flddged, are the apps that develop for windows and iOS as well as Linux - Blender, LibreOffice, Logseq, Godot, etc. The most common offenders are the utility apps, such as those that handle drivers, sound systems, DE functions, etc.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    This means that using most Linux apps are something to be avoided for most Windows users, making the OS base mostly unusable for them.

    I take your point. And this was very much the case for a long time.

    But it's worth pointing out that Gnome and KDE are both done, now.

    I haven't been forced to reach for command line to change something - anything - on either of my last couple of Linux installs.

    Edit: I almost didn't notice, but it feels worth celebrating and raising awareness.