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[+] PiJiNWiNg@sh.itjust.works 85 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] HandMadeArtisanRobot@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children) I would point out that while general computer use has gotten easier, doing anything advanced has gotten much harder. I'm glad my grandma can send memes, but I can't figure out where an app is saving my files because everything is a walled garden! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] PiJiNWiNg@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago Lifelong Android user here. I don't know where an app saves its files (not to personal folders, but app-private folder) even it's rooted. I'm glad this protects me from malwares but it also forbids me to put my device in full control. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 4grams@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) My most recent job hunt has me thinking the same. I used to be a dime a dozen, and young folks were real and serious competition in the job market, but I’ve been in IT since before the .com crash and now my skills are once again becoming unique. I’ve been raising my kids, warning them about the shit state of IT. Maybe I should have been nerding them harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] PiJiNWiNg@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 4grams@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago Yeah, I’m a fancy bricklayer these days.. permalink fedilink source parent [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Developers don’t decide that. Blame UX folk for making things simple. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) As a UX person often my job is to implement somebody else’s vision rather than being able to design something that makes sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) As long as you treat yourself as a pixel pusher, this is a side effect. When you understand that you are a mirror for ideas, you will empower yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Darkenfolk@dormi.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) "Listen boss, I know you wanted me to create it in a certain way, but I am not a pixel pusher alright?! I am a mirror of ideas, so I made something completely different from what you pay me for, what do you mean I'm fired?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) If you say it that way, then yes, even the nicest person will call you a cunt and fire you. If you ask questions, as a user, and showing patterns that support your thesis, this becomes a conversation, rather than a “do it that way”. edit: People are not all knowing. Once you start asking the right questions, you’ll see that - “Ok, and what happens when the user presses this? And what happens if they delete that?” It’s obviously a very abstract example, but if their ideas can’t stand a single user test, then they shouldn’t be surprised if the feature flops. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] notgold@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I agree in principle but when I'm building something I'm normally 3 - 5 people removed from the people who want it. It's hard to push your ideas back through project managers, project engineers, program managers, presale engineers, contract managers, feed managers and then onto the actual company that asked you to implement the "solution". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) That’s a problem, I agree. I feel privileged then, because I actually get to research, and interview, and split test. It was a long battle, I’ve been trying to build that culture for a good 5+ years. Once the features started flopping, I started by doing 2 prototypes - one, based on the PRD from the product team and another, based on my personal research. I had to work 12, sometimes 15 hours a day, but when, instead of showing problems, I was showing solutions, without the “i-told-you-so”s, and when I made it clear that I care about the product’s health alone, that’s when I became the mirror. I reckon it’s not an industry term, but it’s what I like to call it - product presents their idea, you reflect it, and more often than not they do not like what they see. That’s when the real work starts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] notgold@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago I'm with you; I don't like i-told-you-so, I like solutions. I wasn't saying you shouldn't try, because you obviously should, i was just bitching about the difficulties I have in holding up the mirror. permalink fedilink source parent [+] PiJiNWiNg@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HandMadeArtisanRobot@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children) I would point out that while general computer use has gotten easier, doing anything advanced has gotten much harder. I'm glad my grandma can send memes, but I can't figure out where an app is saving my files because everything is a walled garden! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] PiJiNWiNg@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago Lifelong Android user here. I don't know where an app saves its files (not to personal folders, but app-private folder) even it's rooted. I'm glad this protects me from malwares but it also forbids me to put my device in full control. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] PiJiNWiNg@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago Lifelong Android user here. I don't know where an app saves its files (not to personal folders, but app-private folder) even it's rooted. I'm glad this protects me from malwares but it also forbids me to put my device in full control. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 4grams@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) My most recent job hunt has me thinking the same. I used to be a dime a dozen, and young folks were real and serious competition in the job market, but I’ve been in IT since before the .com crash and now my skills are once again becoming unique. I’ve been raising my kids, warning them about the shit state of IT. Maybe I should have been nerding them harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] PiJiNWiNg@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 4grams@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago Yeah, I’m a fancy bricklayer these days.. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] PiJiNWiNg@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 4grams@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago Yeah, I’m a fancy bricklayer these days.. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 4grams@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago Yeah, I’m a fancy bricklayer these days.. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Developers don’t decide that. Blame UX folk for making things simple. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) As a UX person often my job is to implement somebody else’s vision rather than being able to design something that makes sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) As long as you treat yourself as a pixel pusher, this is a side effect. When you understand that you are a mirror for ideas, you will empower yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Darkenfolk@dormi.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) "Listen boss, I know you wanted me to create it in a certain way, but I am not a pixel pusher alright?! I am a mirror of ideas, so I made something completely different from what you pay me for, what do you mean I'm fired?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) If you say it that way, then yes, even the nicest person will call you a cunt and fire you. If you ask questions, as a user, and showing patterns that support your thesis, this becomes a conversation, rather than a “do it that way”. edit: People are not all knowing. Once you start asking the right questions, you’ll see that - “Ok, and what happens when the user presses this? And what happens if they delete that?” It’s obviously a very abstract example, but if their ideas can’t stand a single user test, then they shouldn’t be surprised if the feature flops. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] notgold@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I agree in principle but when I'm building something I'm normally 3 - 5 people removed from the people who want it. It's hard to push your ideas back through project managers, project engineers, program managers, presale engineers, contract managers, feed managers and then onto the actual company that asked you to implement the "solution". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) That’s a problem, I agree. I feel privileged then, because I actually get to research, and interview, and split test. It was a long battle, I’ve been trying to build that culture for a good 5+ years. Once the features started flopping, I started by doing 2 prototypes - one, based on the PRD from the product team and another, based on my personal research. I had to work 12, sometimes 15 hours a day, but when, instead of showing problems, I was showing solutions, without the “i-told-you-so”s, and when I made it clear that I care about the product’s health alone, that’s when I became the mirror. I reckon it’s not an industry term, but it’s what I like to call it - product presents their idea, you reflect it, and more often than not they do not like what they see. That’s when the real work starts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] notgold@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago I'm with you; I don't like i-told-you-so, I like solutions. I wasn't saying you shouldn't try, because you obviously should, i was just bitching about the difficulties I have in holding up the mirror. permalink fedilink source parent [+] PiJiNWiNg@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) As a UX person often my job is to implement somebody else’s vision rather than being able to design something that makes sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) As long as you treat yourself as a pixel pusher, this is a side effect. When you understand that you are a mirror for ideas, you will empower yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Darkenfolk@dormi.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) "Listen boss, I know you wanted me to create it in a certain way, but I am not a pixel pusher alright?! I am a mirror of ideas, so I made something completely different from what you pay me for, what do you mean I'm fired?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) If you say it that way, then yes, even the nicest person will call you a cunt and fire you. If you ask questions, as a user, and showing patterns that support your thesis, this becomes a conversation, rather than a “do it that way”. edit: People are not all knowing. Once you start asking the right questions, you’ll see that - “Ok, and what happens when the user presses this? And what happens if they delete that?” It’s obviously a very abstract example, but if their ideas can’t stand a single user test, then they shouldn’t be surprised if the feature flops. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] notgold@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I agree in principle but when I'm building something I'm normally 3 - 5 people removed from the people who want it. It's hard to push your ideas back through project managers, project engineers, program managers, presale engineers, contract managers, feed managers and then onto the actual company that asked you to implement the "solution". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) That’s a problem, I agree. I feel privileged then, because I actually get to research, and interview, and split test. It was a long battle, I’ve been trying to build that culture for a good 5+ years. Once the features started flopping, I started by doing 2 prototypes - one, based on the PRD from the product team and another, based on my personal research. I had to work 12, sometimes 15 hours a day, but when, instead of showing problems, I was showing solutions, without the “i-told-you-so”s, and when I made it clear that I care about the product’s health alone, that’s when I became the mirror. I reckon it’s not an industry term, but it’s what I like to call it - product presents their idea, you reflect it, and more often than not they do not like what they see. That’s when the real work starts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] notgold@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago I'm with you; I don't like i-told-you-so, I like solutions. I wasn't saying you shouldn't try, because you obviously should, i was just bitching about the difficulties I have in holding up the mirror. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] edwardbear@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) As long as you treat yourself as a pixel pusher, this is a side effect. When you understand that you are a mirror for ideas, you will empower yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Darkenfolk@dormi.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) "Listen boss, I know you wanted me to create it in a certain way, but I am not a pixel pusher alright?! I am a mirror of ideas, so I made something completely different from what you pay me for, what do you mean I'm fired?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) If you say it that way, then yes, even the nicest person will call you a cunt and fire you. If you ask questions, as a user, and showing patterns that support your thesis, this becomes a conversation, rather than a “do it that way”. edit: People are not all knowing. Once you start asking the right questions, you’ll see that - “Ok, and what happens when the user presses this? And what happens if they delete that?” It’s obviously a very abstract example, but if their ideas can’t stand a single user test, then they shouldn’t be surprised if the feature flops. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] notgold@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I agree in principle but when I'm building something I'm normally 3 - 5 people removed from the people who want it. It's hard to push your ideas back through project managers, project engineers, program managers, presale engineers, contract managers, feed managers and then onto the actual company that asked you to implement the "solution". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) That’s a problem, I agree. I feel privileged then, because I actually get to research, and interview, and split test. It was a long battle, I’ve been trying to build that culture for a good 5+ years. Once the features started flopping, I started by doing 2 prototypes - one, based on the PRD from the product team and another, based on my personal research. I had to work 12, sometimes 15 hours a day, but when, instead of showing problems, I was showing solutions, without the “i-told-you-so”s, and when I made it clear that I care about the product’s health alone, that’s when I became the mirror. I reckon it’s not an industry term, but it’s what I like to call it - product presents their idea, you reflect it, and more often than not they do not like what they see. That’s when the real work starts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] notgold@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago I'm with you; I don't like i-told-you-so, I like solutions. I wasn't saying you shouldn't try, because you obviously should, i was just bitching about the difficulties I have in holding up the mirror. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Darkenfolk@dormi.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) "Listen boss, I know you wanted me to create it in a certain way, but I am not a pixel pusher alright?! I am a mirror of ideas, so I made something completely different from what you pay me for, what do you mean I'm fired?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) If you say it that way, then yes, even the nicest person will call you a cunt and fire you. If you ask questions, as a user, and showing patterns that support your thesis, this becomes a conversation, rather than a “do it that way”. edit: People are not all knowing. Once you start asking the right questions, you’ll see that - “Ok, and what happens when the user presses this? And what happens if they delete that?” It’s obviously a very abstract example, but if their ideas can’t stand a single user test, then they shouldn’t be surprised if the feature flops. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] notgold@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I agree in principle but when I'm building something I'm normally 3 - 5 people removed from the people who want it. It's hard to push your ideas back through project managers, project engineers, program managers, presale engineers, contract managers, feed managers and then onto the actual company that asked you to implement the "solution". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) That’s a problem, I agree. I feel privileged then, because I actually get to research, and interview, and split test. It was a long battle, I’ve been trying to build that culture for a good 5+ years. Once the features started flopping, I started by doing 2 prototypes - one, based on the PRD from the product team and another, based on my personal research. I had to work 12, sometimes 15 hours a day, but when, instead of showing problems, I was showing solutions, without the “i-told-you-so”s, and when I made it clear that I care about the product’s health alone, that’s when I became the mirror. I reckon it’s not an industry term, but it’s what I like to call it - product presents their idea, you reflect it, and more often than not they do not like what they see. That’s when the real work starts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] notgold@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago I'm with you; I don't like i-told-you-so, I like solutions. I wasn't saying you shouldn't try, because you obviously should, i was just bitching about the difficulties I have in holding up the mirror. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) If you say it that way, then yes, even the nicest person will call you a cunt and fire you. If you ask questions, as a user, and showing patterns that support your thesis, this becomes a conversation, rather than a “do it that way”. edit: People are not all knowing. Once you start asking the right questions, you’ll see that - “Ok, and what happens when the user presses this? And what happens if they delete that?” It’s obviously a very abstract example, but if their ideas can’t stand a single user test, then they shouldn’t be surprised if the feature flops. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] notgold@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I agree in principle but when I'm building something I'm normally 3 - 5 people removed from the people who want it. It's hard to push your ideas back through project managers, project engineers, program managers, presale engineers, contract managers, feed managers and then onto the actual company that asked you to implement the "solution". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) That’s a problem, I agree. I feel privileged then, because I actually get to research, and interview, and split test. It was a long battle, I’ve been trying to build that culture for a good 5+ years. Once the features started flopping, I started by doing 2 prototypes - one, based on the PRD from the product team and another, based on my personal research. I had to work 12, sometimes 15 hours a day, but when, instead of showing problems, I was showing solutions, without the “i-told-you-so”s, and when I made it clear that I care about the product’s health alone, that’s when I became the mirror. I reckon it’s not an industry term, but it’s what I like to call it - product presents their idea, you reflect it, and more often than not they do not like what they see. That’s when the real work starts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] notgold@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago I'm with you; I don't like i-told-you-so, I like solutions. I wasn't saying you shouldn't try, because you obviously should, i was just bitching about the difficulties I have in holding up the mirror. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] notgold@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I agree in principle but when I'm building something I'm normally 3 - 5 people removed from the people who want it. It's hard to push your ideas back through project managers, project engineers, program managers, presale engineers, contract managers, feed managers and then onto the actual company that asked you to implement the "solution". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) That’s a problem, I agree. I feel privileged then, because I actually get to research, and interview, and split test. It was a long battle, I’ve been trying to build that culture for a good 5+ years. Once the features started flopping, I started by doing 2 prototypes - one, based on the PRD from the product team and another, based on my personal research. I had to work 12, sometimes 15 hours a day, but when, instead of showing problems, I was showing solutions, without the “i-told-you-so”s, and when I made it clear that I care about the product’s health alone, that’s when I became the mirror. I reckon it’s not an industry term, but it’s what I like to call it - product presents their idea, you reflect it, and more often than not they do not like what they see. That’s when the real work starts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] notgold@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago I'm with you; I don't like i-told-you-so, I like solutions. I wasn't saying you shouldn't try, because you obviously should, i was just bitching about the difficulties I have in holding up the mirror. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) That’s a problem, I agree. I feel privileged then, because I actually get to research, and interview, and split test. It was a long battle, I’ve been trying to build that culture for a good 5+ years. Once the features started flopping, I started by doing 2 prototypes - one, based on the PRD from the product team and another, based on my personal research. I had to work 12, sometimes 15 hours a day, but when, instead of showing problems, I was showing solutions, without the “i-told-you-so”s, and when I made it clear that I care about the product’s health alone, that’s when I became the mirror. I reckon it’s not an industry term, but it’s what I like to call it - product presents their idea, you reflect it, and more often than not they do not like what they see. That’s when the real work starts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] notgold@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago I'm with you; I don't like i-told-you-so, I like solutions. I wasn't saying you shouldn't try, because you obviously should, i was just bitching about the difficulties I have in holding up the mirror. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] notgold@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago I'm with you; I don't like i-told-you-so, I like solutions. I wasn't saying you shouldn't try, because you obviously should, i was just bitching about the difficulties I have in holding up the mirror. permalink fedilink source parent
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