this post was submitted on 18 Mar 2025
741 points (95.8% liked)

Palestine

1241 readers
843 users here now

A community to discuss everything Palestine.

Rules:

  1. Posts can be in Arabic or English.

  2. Please add a flair in the title of every post. Example: “[News] Israel annexes the West Bank ”, “[Culture] Musakhan is the nicest food in the world!”, “[Question] How many Palestinians live in Jordan?”

List of flairs: [News] [Culture] [Discussion] [Question] [Request] [Guide]

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Where is the outrage? Where have all the "humans" gone? Israel slaughtered over 400 innocent civilians in Gaza last night. Most of them women and children.

None of those with #Ukraine, #Canada, #Mexico and #EU flags on their profile raising their voice condemning this outrageous crime.

-----------
The sheikh wandered around the city with a lamp

I'm tired of all the devils and the death, and seeking one human

They said it cannot be found, we have searched, As we said before

That which cannot be found I desire

Rumi
دی شیخ با چراغ همی‌ گشت گرد شهر
کز دیو و دد ملولم و انسانم آرزوست

گفتند یافت می‌ نشود جسته‌ ایم ما گفت
آن که یافت می‌ نشود آنم آرزوست
#poetry #Rumi #Gaza #Inhumanity #Death #politics #Israel #Genocide #WarCrime
@[email protected] @[email protected] @israel @iran

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Your link is for something else altogether than the campaign of murder by predator drone that Obama conducted in Pakistan

My link is total murders by President.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207

Frankly I don't care if he was the worst, the 2nd worst or the 3rd worse

Making 10 deaths equal to 10,000 deaths is the same bullshit logic that Israel uses to justify their murders.

By repeating the Obama drone striker propaganda, you are acting as a mouthpiece for Trump.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-01-17/obamas-covert-drone-war-in-numbers-ten-times-more-strikes-than-bush

--

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_from_the_United_States_drone_strikes#Approvals_of_drone_strikes

However, in the pre-strike review, Obama "embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties" that effectively counted "all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent."

This, by the way, means that in that link of yours, counts for combatant deaths is almost certainly counting "combatants" in Obama's very special way, and ditto for all other reports of combatant deaths from the Obama era.

So you're either an useful idiot for believing the numbers, massaged by adjusting the meaning of the words, of the political propaganda from the Obama era (and changing the meaning of words to massage the numbers is a doublespeak technique in the same way as Trump redefining of words, just less brazen and more indirect) or you're so tribalist you're basically a sociopathy and are knowingly defending with falsehoods a guy who ordered the deaths of thousands of people.

The former is excusable, the latter is not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

You are using the talking point that the method of killing is more important than the actual killing.

How many total people did Bush Jr kill?

But even the subset of drone attacks doesn't stand up to scrutiny because as I already showed, Trump did far more drone attacks than Obama. Yet it's never Trump the drone killer.