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[-] [email protected] 118 points 3 months ago

The cars suck, but he's right that the company hasn't done anything to deserve this. He's the one who chose to make himself the face of Tesla, though, so however people feel about him, they'll feel about any business he owns.

Terrorism, though? Hardly. It's protest. He's the one doing terrorism by dismantling the government.

[-] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago

The cars are poorly designed to the point of being dangerous. They deserve it a little.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Terrorism, though? Hardly.

Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature

Pretty much the definition of terrorism. Doesn't necessarily make it wrong.

That's what was so terrifying about the Patriot Act for so long.

[-] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes, but that definition also defines... basically all the most heinous things that Trump and those around him have done in the last... 5 years, lets say? ... as terrorism.

Remember CPAC, 2022?

... kinda speaks for itself.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Rather it is vandalism, because Terrorism, its acts cause terror in the population.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

nobody is terrified, except for billionaires, like crybaby musk.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Spraypaint a traffic camera, violence.

So what I'm hearing is, if you burn Tesla because their CEO is a scum-sucking useless billionaire who is dismantling the social services that you and your family rely on (and paid for!), in order to cut taxes for the 1%, you're a terrorist.

If you set shit on fire because you like to watch stuff burn, you're just a plain ol' arsonist.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Not sure why some people are disagreeing - it for sure fits the definition. I'm not exactly sad about it - Musk is helping to rip apart the country and I have a hard time blaming people who feel that helping to rip apart one of his companies is about all they can do - but committing arson to further an ideology is terrorism.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not sure why some people are disagreeing

They don't like the connotation. Which is fair. Nuance is hard and if you say "yes, we're terrorists" there's no way that's not going to be wielded against "your people" in the court of public opinion.

But facts are facts.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

It's property damage that was done specifically to avoid hurting people. By that interpretation, Banksy could also be classified as a terrorist.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

criminal acts

With this definition, a government can do anything it wants without it being terrorism because it gets to decide what's criminal. So while it may be terrorism by definition, that definition is pretty useless without a lot of context.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

This is terrorism. Storming the capitol is clearly not.

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