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[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

We don't have to do anything other then work on passing electoral reform one state at a time. Democrats can be whatever the hell they want, so long as everyone is free to vote how they want with the ability to transfer their vote.

Electoral Reform Videos

First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

Videos on alternative electoral systems

STAR voting

Alternative vote

Ranked Choice voting

Range Voting

Single Transferable Vote

Mixed Member Proportional representation

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Historically, that doesn't actually fix systemic issues, though, like the only parties of relevance electorally being pre-approved and backed by the bourgeoisie. Moreover, electoral reform doesn't have a real path to implementation that would make more sense than revolution to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

it’s a long road with a lot more steps but simply “destroying” the notion that democrats are the good guys simply gets you republicans and that’s gotta be the worst way to shift left ever

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The road is revolution, not just against the Democrats or Republicans, but the entire system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

revolution is easy to say on the internet but at the end of the day a lot of people die

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

People die without revolution, historically revolutionary Socialism has come with dramatic improvements in quality of life for the Working Class. Taking down the US Empire would massively uplift the burden on the Global South as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

perhaps, or perhaps it could be replaced by something worse. there are no guarantees

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

economic systems don't happen on accident

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

the nordic states seem to be doing pretty well at riding a good line, and whilst australia is far from socialist, what we have is working great too

accident? no of course not… but consistency… a big bang “revolution” is the easy way out… it’s so easy to say you’ll fight for what you believe in when you don’t have to see what it’ll entail or what will come out the other side of it but the reality is far more bloody and is absolutely not what you have in your head afterwards

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

the nordic countries do well at the cost of the third world. they are rich because of imperialism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

and you believe a revolution in the US will help the third world?

socialist countries are plenty capable of being exploitative too. a revolution doesn’t change the people - it changes the power structures

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

a socialist state would not spend public money so corporations can profit from waging endless war instead of just having solid healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

all of the above listed counties have very solid healthcare and are not entirely socialist. what’s your point?

socialism is not a requirement for being a place that treats people with respect and dignity; nor is it a silver bullet

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

it is a requirement if you want to do that without oppessing brown people elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

the important thing is not socialism: it’s a government that deals with negative externalities

socialism tends to do better at that simply because often it often does better at long-term planning (but that’s not a given either), but capitalism without corporate bullshit, stock markets, etc (ie actual ownership over a business rather than just ownership over a vague thing where you’re only concerned with line goes up not long term business health) has pretty much the same drivers: long term sustainability and this holding others to account for their negative externalities

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago

This has never done anything in countries that use it, like SK, Japan, Australia, etc. It might make the candidate stacking a little more expensive, but that's it.

If capital stands above the political system, the method of voting doesn't matter.