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That's... Basically every car made in the last 15 years?
Depends on the car brand. Some kept their dependance on software quite low like Mazda. Some decided to take a risk with the software gods and tie their entire functionality to it while simultaneously laying off good workers and rehiring the lowest bidder.
The worst bug I had on my car had the onboard computer not starting, and the screen remaining black. It meant I had: no GPS, no music, no backup camera, and no parking sensor.
But apart from that, the car was driving perfectly normal, and all the other features were working as expected.
My car has a 3 finger salute to force reboot the infotainment system.
Teslas also have a slaute to acess the infotainment system, except it uses the entire hand and arm
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Oh apparently I have something similar (5s press on the bottom left), it might have worked
My 2017 mini hasn't had anything, even resembling that?
It's got an ECU, you're 1 computer bug away from being stranded.
the thing is that most manufacturers make sure software bugs are rare in cars. i never experienced an ecu bug before.
OK, that's a sample size of one, not very useful. Most Tesla owners never experienced an ECU bug either. I've never had an ECU bug in any of my own cars, but last year I had a rental car from Opel for a few months while my car was waiting for a replacement transmission to get shipped, and in the few months I had it I experienced an ECU bug once, where the car refused to be put into gear, and the only way to fix it was to disconnect the 12v battery and reattach it
It's a fact that modern cars get more complicated electronics every year, so ECU bugs leaving you stranded will get more common every year also
i never knew anybody whos ever experienced an ECU bug before, on non-teslas. the infotainment system can have issues, but on sane cars it is separate from engine management and the electronic functions of the car that have to be reliable.
i think thats the point this post in general is trying to make.
My car is built in 2023 (2016 model) and has none of those "features". The most high tech thing is a USB port.
Ah, so no ECU? No RFID engine interlock? No braking assist or lane keep?
I highly doubt it. Post your model. You're 1 software bug away from a dead car.
Proton Saga 1.3, good luck.
Let's see here.
ECU - that has a bug and your dead in the water
Push to start - bug in that system, and you're stuck.
Hill Hold - have a software glitch there and your brake is jammed on.
Sorry bub, there are multiple system on your car where a software glitch will stop it from driving.
Every car has an ECU, those are pretty much tried and tested at this point. Bugs are rare.
I don't have push to start.
I don't have hill hold.
Like I said, the most advanced feature of my car is a USB charger.
The point.
You might be right but how common are those? Ive yet to have a car breakdown over an ECU bug/malfunction but its a small sample size.
Not that common, I think most places try to flash the ECU and if that doesn't work they chuck it. I would not be surprised if a lot of software bugs get resolved as a bad ECU.
Thats a good point and I have had that happen before.
Yes and?