▲ 203 ▼ Communism in theory vs in practice (lemmy.ml) submitted 1 year ago by Confidant6198@lemmy.ml to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 11 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/27241241
[–] nectar45@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) I dont even need full blown communism, just a world without corporations...that would be amazing permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] madeinthebackseat@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Corporations are whatever we define them to be. They're only legal structures which we could construct to be beneficial, or as we see in modern times, others could mold to rob society of greater good. The problem isn't corporations, the problem is humans don't have the consistent will to build societies that prevent and punish greed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child) you do understand how circular and self defeating your analysis is, right? you say the problem is not punishing greed. okay. let's follow your last sentence to it's logical conclusion.... how exactly (in today's corporate controlled society) would we punish greed? keeping in mind, greed at the level of corporations is inarguably the single most salient and damaging type of greed. could the answer have anything to do with say, corporations? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] madeinthebackseat@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago My claim is it isn't constructive to scream about "corporations" without actively understanding the core issues. Corporations are human constructs governed by a set of laws within whatever locality they exist. We have allowed corporations to become overly powerful and greedy by letting our elected officials effectively accept bribes in the form of so-called election finance. This has led to regulatory capture by corporations. My point is corporations are whatever we allow them to be, and after generations of allowing them to become monopolistic behemoths, we either need to find a way to reign in their power or we'll be run over. If you want to reign in corporations, you have to start by changing the systems that govern them. Screaming that they're greedy is a fools errand, they're obviously greedy in the current form. We need to take action and actually hold people accountable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago That's what China does to its corporations. It's called social capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] madeinthebackseat@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Corporations are whatever we define them to be. They're only legal structures which we could construct to be beneficial, or as we see in modern times, others could mold to rob society of greater good. The problem isn't corporations, the problem is humans don't have the consistent will to build societies that prevent and punish greed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child) you do understand how circular and self defeating your analysis is, right? you say the problem is not punishing greed. okay. let's follow your last sentence to it's logical conclusion.... how exactly (in today's corporate controlled society) would we punish greed? keeping in mind, greed at the level of corporations is inarguably the single most salient and damaging type of greed. could the answer have anything to do with say, corporations? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] madeinthebackseat@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago My claim is it isn't constructive to scream about "corporations" without actively understanding the core issues. Corporations are human constructs governed by a set of laws within whatever locality they exist. We have allowed corporations to become overly powerful and greedy by letting our elected officials effectively accept bribes in the form of so-called election finance. This has led to regulatory capture by corporations. My point is corporations are whatever we allow them to be, and after generations of allowing them to become monopolistic behemoths, we either need to find a way to reign in their power or we'll be run over. If you want to reign in corporations, you have to start by changing the systems that govern them. Screaming that they're greedy is a fools errand, they're obviously greedy in the current form. We need to take action and actually hold people accountable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago That's what China does to its corporations. It's called social capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child) you do understand how circular and self defeating your analysis is, right? you say the problem is not punishing greed. okay. let's follow your last sentence to it's logical conclusion.... how exactly (in today's corporate controlled society) would we punish greed? keeping in mind, greed at the level of corporations is inarguably the single most salient and damaging type of greed. could the answer have anything to do with say, corporations? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] madeinthebackseat@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago My claim is it isn't constructive to scream about "corporations" without actively understanding the core issues. Corporations are human constructs governed by a set of laws within whatever locality they exist. We have allowed corporations to become overly powerful and greedy by letting our elected officials effectively accept bribes in the form of so-called election finance. This has led to regulatory capture by corporations. My point is corporations are whatever we allow them to be, and after generations of allowing them to become monopolistic behemoths, we either need to find a way to reign in their power or we'll be run over. If you want to reign in corporations, you have to start by changing the systems that govern them. Screaming that they're greedy is a fools errand, they're obviously greedy in the current form. We need to take action and actually hold people accountable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] madeinthebackseat@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago My claim is it isn't constructive to scream about "corporations" without actively understanding the core issues. Corporations are human constructs governed by a set of laws within whatever locality they exist. We have allowed corporations to become overly powerful and greedy by letting our elected officials effectively accept bribes in the form of so-called election finance. This has led to regulatory capture by corporations. My point is corporations are whatever we allow them to be, and after generations of allowing them to become monopolistic behemoths, we either need to find a way to reign in their power or we'll be run over. If you want to reign in corporations, you have to start by changing the systems that govern them. Screaming that they're greedy is a fools errand, they're obviously greedy in the current form. We need to take action and actually hold people accountable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago That's what China does to its corporations. It's called social capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent
