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I haven't done adequate due diligence yet - could be inaccurate

I came across this article alleging that Germany is considering bailing on the F-35 aircraft because the US can remotely disable them.

If the US could do this to German F-35s, presumably they can do it to ours....

Additional reporting alleging concern in Canadian defence circles

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

Not a fan of speculation and we're likely to never see any official documentation, considering it's a military aircraft.

But I will say: If it is true, it's probably the dumbest thing you could do to an advanced fighter like this. Just imagine that you're in a conflict, then the enemy hacks your command and control systems and disables/hijacks all of your aircraft. Yeah, that's pretty dumb.

Even the Star Trek writers realized this sort of thing is a bad idea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

This is exactly what happens in the Battlestar Galactica reboot with all the fancy newer ships in the first couple episodes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 26 minutes ago

I really need to re-watch that show. But I can't stand all of the useless bickering lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

While speculation, I don't doubt it one bit.

It's unlikely you'd be able to fly these without US maintenance and supplies in the first place, but even if you could, I'd trust them as much as pagers from Israel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

BAE Systems (in the UK) has full F-35 manufacturing capabilities. The Brits could tell them to toss it any day now and I wouldn't be surprised, with the way things are going.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Just because you put kill switches in the ones you sell, doesn't mean you've got to put them in your own.

But yeah, being able to remotely kill a fighter jet is incredibly stupid.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Just because you put kill switches in the ones you sell

That right there is what it is. I can almost guarantee this to be the case, as a Canadian I have always opposed the F-35's. We need twin engine for our Arctic climates and who cares about stealth when you are defending your territory. We aren't an aggressive country.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

You care about stealth when defending your country because stealth is how you win air to air combat now.

Dogfighting is as meaningful to modern air combat as the horse and lance are to modern ground combat. Fighter planes work like submarines now; the goal is to detect and kill the enemy before they can detect and kill you. Kills happen from outside of visual range.

A defensive aircraft without advanced stealth can be shot and killed by an aggressor before they ever have the ability to target that aggressor.

To put it another way, do you think that our soldiers only wear camouflage when they're planning a sneak attack? Do our troops wear hazard vests and strap road flares to their helmets when they're defending a location to make sure the enemy knows exactly where they are? Or is it, in fact, always beneficial to see your enemy before they see you?