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The wokes are ruining my Lemmy! (lemmy.ml)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

but if someone says Israel shouldn’t exist then you may as well say that no country should exist.

You're so close.

Also, would you have said the same of people saying Nazi Germany shouldn't exist during WW2?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You’re so close.

So no countries should exist? Sometimes I wonder how a single world government would work. But maybe it's not worth thinking about too much since it's not a realistic prospect currently.

would you have said the same of people saying Nazi Germany shouldn’t exist during WW2?

Perhaps it's reasonable to say that a peaceful and non-genocidal Germany can exist (today's Germany I think fits into that description). So maybe the same applies to Israel.

When the ICC issued arrest warrants for the leaders of Israel and Hamas, I thought that made sense, because both sides killed civilians. Both sets of leaders should probably face trials. Maybe in the future Israel and Palestine can both be led by peaceful governments.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Not who you were replying to, but I think this is a good point to jump in. A world Socialist government is necessary as production advances, it's a process and not a decision someone can make.

Either way, Israel only exists through Settler-Colonialism and genocide of Palestinians. Hamas is a reaction to Israel's genocide of Palestinians, condemning both the oppressor and the oppressed due to both "using violence" just serves to preserve the status quo. I think you'd benefit greatly from reading Frantz Fanon. The "two-state" solution isn't a solution, it just entrenches the genocide of Palestinians. A single, secular state (the solution commonly supported by Palestinian experts) is the only way to stop the genocide.