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[+] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org -9 points 2 years ago (3 children) What's illegal about it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's called the Logan Act. There are actually laws about how civilians can interact with foreign officials. Dennis Rodman famously violated those laws when he went to North Korea to act in an official capacity that wasn't officially sanctioned. Trump is a civilian until inauguration, so his meetings with heads of state to discuss official matters (not just shooting the shit about movies and new restaurants) would have had to be sanctioned to be legal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] falidorn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just like it says: Rodman went in an official capacity but wasn’t given the authority. He did it on his own. It wasn’t officially sanctioned so he either lied or was just oblivious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds like grey area to me, couldn't he just have met them as 'friends' or did he seriously identify himself as US president before he was inaugurated? Or is the law that strict? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] falidorn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) He claimed to negotiate and just generally be there in the name of the US. Who cares about a president? We have lots of people that operate in an official capacity to other countries that aren’t remotely close to the president. You simply cannot state you are operating with US authority in foreign relations unless you are specifically authorized. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That makes sense. It sounds hard to prove though, it'd have to be on record that he (Trump) was suggesting he was meeting those people on behalf of the US instead of just as a friendly visit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] falidorn@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) There are settled court cases that should cover this kind of situation. I’m sure there are witnesses and a paper trail. The problem is whether there’s any interest in actually pursuing a conviction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago Interesting. Thanks for elaborating permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, the meeting... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) So the meeting is illegal because it's a meeting. Gotcha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You asked what's illegal, not why it's illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No I didn't. "What's illegal about it" is just another way of asking "why is it illegal" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Have it your way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Words have meaning. permalink fedilink source parent [+] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's called the Logan Act. There are actually laws about how civilians can interact with foreign officials. Dennis Rodman famously violated those laws when he went to North Korea to act in an official capacity that wasn't officially sanctioned. Trump is a civilian until inauguration, so his meetings with heads of state to discuss official matters (not just shooting the shit about movies and new restaurants) would have had to be sanctioned to be legal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] falidorn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just like it says: Rodman went in an official capacity but wasn’t given the authority. He did it on his own. It wasn’t officially sanctioned so he either lied or was just oblivious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds like grey area to me, couldn't he just have met them as 'friends' or did he seriously identify himself as US president before he was inaugurated? Or is the law that strict? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] falidorn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) He claimed to negotiate and just generally be there in the name of the US. Who cares about a president? We have lots of people that operate in an official capacity to other countries that aren’t remotely close to the president. You simply cannot state you are operating with US authority in foreign relations unless you are specifically authorized. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That makes sense. It sounds hard to prove though, it'd have to be on record that he (Trump) was suggesting he was meeting those people on behalf of the US instead of just as a friendly visit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] falidorn@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) There are settled court cases that should cover this kind of situation. I’m sure there are witnesses and a paper trail. The problem is whether there’s any interest in actually pursuing a conviction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago Interesting. Thanks for elaborating permalink fedilink source parent
[+] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] falidorn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just like it says: Rodman went in an official capacity but wasn’t given the authority. He did it on his own. It wasn’t officially sanctioned so he either lied or was just oblivious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds like grey area to me, couldn't he just have met them as 'friends' or did he seriously identify himself as US president before he was inaugurated? Or is the law that strict? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] falidorn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) He claimed to negotiate and just generally be there in the name of the US. Who cares about a president? We have lots of people that operate in an official capacity to other countries that aren’t remotely close to the president. You simply cannot state you are operating with US authority in foreign relations unless you are specifically authorized. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That makes sense. It sounds hard to prove though, it'd have to be on record that he (Trump) was suggesting he was meeting those people on behalf of the US instead of just as a friendly visit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] falidorn@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) There are settled court cases that should cover this kind of situation. I’m sure there are witnesses and a paper trail. The problem is whether there’s any interest in actually pursuing a conviction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago Interesting. Thanks for elaborating permalink fedilink source parent
[–] falidorn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just like it says: Rodman went in an official capacity but wasn’t given the authority. He did it on his own. It wasn’t officially sanctioned so he either lied or was just oblivious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds like grey area to me, couldn't he just have met them as 'friends' or did he seriously identify himself as US president before he was inaugurated? Or is the law that strict? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] falidorn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) He claimed to negotiate and just generally be there in the name of the US. Who cares about a president? We have lots of people that operate in an official capacity to other countries that aren’t remotely close to the president. You simply cannot state you are operating with US authority in foreign relations unless you are specifically authorized. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That makes sense. It sounds hard to prove though, it'd have to be on record that he (Trump) was suggesting he was meeting those people on behalf of the US instead of just as a friendly visit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] falidorn@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) There are settled court cases that should cover this kind of situation. I’m sure there are witnesses and a paper trail. The problem is whether there’s any interest in actually pursuing a conviction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago Interesting. Thanks for elaborating permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Sounds like grey area to me, couldn't he just have met them as 'friends' or did he seriously identify himself as US president before he was inaugurated? Or is the law that strict? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] falidorn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) He claimed to negotiate and just generally be there in the name of the US. Who cares about a president? We have lots of people that operate in an official capacity to other countries that aren’t remotely close to the president. You simply cannot state you are operating with US authority in foreign relations unless you are specifically authorized. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That makes sense. It sounds hard to prove though, it'd have to be on record that he (Trump) was suggesting he was meeting those people on behalf of the US instead of just as a friendly visit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] falidorn@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) There are settled court cases that should cover this kind of situation. I’m sure there are witnesses and a paper trail. The problem is whether there’s any interest in actually pursuing a conviction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago Interesting. Thanks for elaborating permalink fedilink source parent
[–] falidorn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) He claimed to negotiate and just generally be there in the name of the US. Who cares about a president? We have lots of people that operate in an official capacity to other countries that aren’t remotely close to the president. You simply cannot state you are operating with US authority in foreign relations unless you are specifically authorized. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That makes sense. It sounds hard to prove though, it'd have to be on record that he (Trump) was suggesting he was meeting those people on behalf of the US instead of just as a friendly visit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] falidorn@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) There are settled court cases that should cover this kind of situation. I’m sure there are witnesses and a paper trail. The problem is whether there’s any interest in actually pursuing a conviction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago Interesting. Thanks for elaborating permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That makes sense. It sounds hard to prove though, it'd have to be on record that he (Trump) was suggesting he was meeting those people on behalf of the US instead of just as a friendly visit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] falidorn@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) There are settled court cases that should cover this kind of situation. I’m sure there are witnesses and a paper trail. The problem is whether there’s any interest in actually pursuing a conviction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago Interesting. Thanks for elaborating permalink fedilink source parent
[–] falidorn@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) There are settled court cases that should cover this kind of situation. I’m sure there are witnesses and a paper trail. The problem is whether there’s any interest in actually pursuing a conviction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago Interesting. Thanks for elaborating permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago Interesting. Thanks for elaborating permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, the meeting... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) So the meeting is illegal because it's a meeting. Gotcha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You asked what's illegal, not why it's illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No I didn't. "What's illegal about it" is just another way of asking "why is it illegal" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Have it your way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Words have meaning. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) So the meeting is illegal because it's a meeting. Gotcha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You asked what's illegal, not why it's illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No I didn't. "What's illegal about it" is just another way of asking "why is it illegal" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Have it your way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Words have meaning. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You asked what's illegal, not why it's illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No I didn't. "What's illegal about it" is just another way of asking "why is it illegal" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Have it your way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Words have meaning. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No I didn't. "What's illegal about it" is just another way of asking "why is it illegal" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Have it your way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Words have meaning. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Have it your way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Words have meaning. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Have it your way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Words have meaning. permalink fedilink source parent
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