Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

Posting Guidelines

All posts should follow this basic structure:

Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.

Rules

Post only about bans or other sanctions that you have received from a mod or admin.
Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
Don’t deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
Don’t harass mods or brigade comms. Don’t word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.

Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.

Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.

YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.

Some acronyms you might see.

PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
CLM - Clueless mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.

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Self report: AITPTB for banning someone for report abuse? (ponder.cat)

submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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So, I saw a report from one of my users. They reported:

https://ponder.cat/post/1594852/1813842

For the reason:

Unreasonable fighting with everyone in every simple post

I think that's ridiculous, so I talked with them about it. Posting private communications is frowned upon I guess, but long story short, they weren't receptive. I've decided to ban the account.

IMO the general culture on Lemmy is that users are entitled to their free account and everyone needs to be careful and circumspect about limiting that entitlement in any way, but I don't see it that way. I don't think it's a requirement for me to provide hosting space for anyone who wants to use my stuff as a jumping-off point for abuse of Lemmy's systems, and isn't apologetic or receptive when I talk with them about not doing that. The fact that it's in service of harassing FlyingSquid in particular is just icing on the cake, since my perception is that people like to harass him apparently for no legitimate reason at all (with this as an example).

AITA?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay but in the OP here you have the opinion that FlyingSquid is someone who needs protecting.

I think everyone is someone who needs protecting. My point is that things are happening to FlyingSquid that are not happening to the average person, which means I react differently when another instance of that same thing happens. It's not based on any particular special class I put FlyingSquid in, because pretty much the only thing I know about him is the pattern of people criticizing him for things that seem to me to be made up, and me looking into it and seeing at most like 20% justification for it and often 0%. Like in this case.

It sounds like you're saying that I'm an asshole, and being biased, if I do that. All I can really say is we're going to need to agree to disagree.

The users saying the issue is if there is a clear pattern aren’t arguing in support of whether there is a clear pattern of the world conspiring against one user. They’re saying moderation action is supposed to come down on someone, someone, with a clear pattern of misbehavior. Permabans for rules or harrassment require more than one incident of being a nuisance. Otherwise, they call for a clear but stern warning.

I addressed this exact point pretty clearly in the comment you're replying to. It's a pretty critical part of my response, because like I said, what you're saying is a pretty fair point.

And if this combative attitude is what you took to that user in DMs, then I can see why they escalated to a point where you had to ban them.

I'm not super friendly all the time online. I'm actually trying to work on it. But honestly I don't feel like I need to be super-friendly to someone who's using my hosting to spew bullshit into the network. I was civil about it, maybe a little bit curt, a lot like what you see in these comments yes. If they decide it needs to escalate because of that because I didn't put any heart emojis, then IDK what to tell them other than "bold strategy Cotton" et cetera.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You asked for judgment. I gave it.

I think you came here to get a pat on the ass and have people agree with you, not to hear dissenting opinion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I think you came here to get a pat on the ass and have people agree with you, not to hear dissenting opinion.

100000% this. There is literally NO consideration of any of the points brought up, simply OP pontificating around everyone else's thoughts and coming to their own conclusion every time. It literally always comes back to "but it's my instance," which nobody has actually disagreed with.

Moderate your own instance however you want, but they asked for a judgement and the consensus is nearly-unanimously against them.