▲ 1016 ▼ Swasticars (lemmy.ml) submitted 2 years ago by octopus_ink@lemmy.ml to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 107 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) I mean, the model 3 and Y would be great cars if it weren't for Elon. Tesla, SpaceX, and the whole world would be much better off without him. Edit: also I'm not talking about FSD, I think it's bullshit and will continue to be bullshit for the foreseeable future. I like to drive my car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TechAnon@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you seen the Xiaomi SU7? Cheaper, faster, arguably much better looking.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I live in the US and they're not available. Also I'm reluctant to buy anything with cameras and an internet connection from China as long as the CCP is in charge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TechAnon@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not talking about buying one. Just comparing the cars themselves. Teslas are falling behind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Hell, I think modern Kias are ahead of Tesla at this point permalink fedilink source parent [–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago* Until self-driving tech is good enough that you can safely not have a human behind the wheel it isn't really anything other than a toy. As soon as you can remove humans from the equation you can have automated trucks, without even the capacity for a human driver, that's where the real future is, not in owned vehicles that will always have, by definition, a driver in them anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TechAnon@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you seen the Xiaomi SU7? Cheaper, faster, arguably much better looking.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I live in the US and they're not available. Also I'm reluctant to buy anything with cameras and an internet connection from China as long as the CCP is in charge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TechAnon@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not talking about buying one. Just comparing the cars themselves. Teslas are falling behind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Hell, I think modern Kias are ahead of Tesla at this point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I live in the US and they're not available. Also I'm reluctant to buy anything with cameras and an internet connection from China as long as the CCP is in charge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TechAnon@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not talking about buying one. Just comparing the cars themselves. Teslas are falling behind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Hell, I think modern Kias are ahead of Tesla at this point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TechAnon@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not talking about buying one. Just comparing the cars themselves. Teslas are falling behind. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Hell, I think modern Kias are ahead of Tesla at this point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Hell, I think modern Kias are ahead of Tesla at this point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago* Until self-driving tech is good enough that you can safely not have a human behind the wheel it isn't really anything other than a toy. As soon as you can remove humans from the equation you can have automated trucks, without even the capacity for a human driver, that's where the real future is, not in owned vehicles that will always have, by definition, a driver in them anyway. permalink fedilink source parent