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‘Eurowings should be ashamed of how they handled this situation,’ says passenger

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[–] [email protected] 152 points 1 year ago (46 children)

One thing in advance: Leah Williams was not forced to buy all packages of peanuts on board – on the contrary, our purser tried to offer her an alternative solution by informing all passengers sitting around her about Leah’s allergy. She agreed at first but then decided to still buy all the packages.

The airline says it is “unable to guarantee that the aircraft is free of foodstuffs that may trigger an allergic reaction, such as peanuts”, because passengers are allowed to bring their own food onboard.

I feel bad for her but I have to wonder, how does this person function on a day to day basis? If their allergy is so severe that other people eating peanuts around her would harm her, how does she leave the house? How did she navigate the airport?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Peanuts are not ubiquitous in public. Being near several people eating them in a fairly enclosed space is very different than walking through and airport and someone 25 feet away has a bag of peanuts.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (16 children)

The air within an airplane cabin is recirculated every five or ten minutes. A real severe peanut allergy would be triggered by anyone on the plane eating peanuts.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

are planes cleansed that thoroughly between flights? I assume one would have to worry about who was eating what in the area from a previous flight with an allergy that severe

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The majority of airplanes are equipped with HEPA filters. As in, removing 99,97% of particles over 0.3 micron in size. The unfiltered air is fed in from the outside. It's pretty clean and not a consideration for allergens like peanut particles.

Source: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/how-clean-is-the-air-on-your-airplane-coronavirus-cvd

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

As in, removing 99,97% of particles over 0.3 micron in size.

HEPA filters remove 99.97% of particles that are 0.3 micron in size. (That is the size of particles they're tested with, as it's the most difficult to filter.) They remove over 99.97% of particles larger or smaller than 0.3 microns.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They are vacuumed and trash removed but they aren't wiped down from top to bottom

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Living with allergies such as a severe peanut allergy is all about mitigating risk

In most open areas you can be cautious about what you touch and who you stand near to. In enclosed spaces such as airplanes, the risk is substantial and mitigating it requires as close to an absence of peanuts as possible

And peanuts are special in how easily they trigger severe reactions. Of all my son's allergies, peanuts are the one that scare us

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