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People are downvoting you, but you're absolutely right. These youngsters don't know just how much (most) people adored Trump up until ~2015.
I still think Bill and Hillary have/had an open marriage and that they only went with adultery because they figured it would be easier for the public to stomach than the truth which (I believe ) is likely to be a purely political marriage with secret lovers often.
I was born in the 1970s I have no idea what you are talking about.
I guess you didn't open a newspaper or turn on a TV very often then.
No I grew up in NJ. Most people thought he was a blowhard and an asshole around me but then again I grew up in a town filled with bankers and financiers so they likely knew him IRL. He was always a fucking clown.
Ah. Fair enough. I literally knew nothing about him growing up as a kid in the Sierra Nevada mountains. Other than the fact that he was the "you're fired" guy.
Until he ran in 2015 he was just some vague celebrity that I remembered seeing once in awhile. Whenever he was mentioned in conversation it was neutral or making fun of him saying "you're fired".
I'm not "old" but I'm not young either, I don't remember any period where people liked Trump all that much. Maybe it's because I'm from NY and have pretty much heard about his bullshit on the news my whole life.
It's always blown my mind how people from NY could love him suddenly when our whole lives it's been one article after another about some scumbag thing he did to contractors, or something with a woman. He'd go on Howard Stern and just be a pig with him. Maybe some people liked that part of him, but I never got the impression people liked Trump at least from the 90s onward.
I probably shouldn't have used the word "adored" there. I mean personally I knew of his existence but I didn't really have an opinion on the guy one way or another until his presidential run in 2015. Didn't like him then and voted against him then.
I think most people had neutral to positive views on Trump before 2015. I mean you can go look at basically any old magazines he's mentioned in. Old news articles. He is mostly spoken about in a positive way. The language around Trump and his public image totally changed after 2016.
What's wrong with that? Don't get me wrong, I hate both of them, but out of all the things to call out about the Clintons, why that?
Nothing wrong with it. I didn't intend to paint it as a negative if it came across that way. More just my personal belief on that relationship and what happend when he got caught. I think they thought that more Americans would be able to stomach a cheating president than one in a "fake" marriage. Which today sounds nuts, but the political climate in the 1990s was significantly different.
Fair point!
It's not that people adored him.
It's that he paid neoliberals to do things that favored the wealthy over average Americans, and Dems were more than happy to take his money and give him what he wants.
He gave for decades, he got more out of it than some wedding guests. As much as trump never paid his workers, he always paid his politicians.
And that's what they cared about.
We can't fix the country till we fix our party, and that means tossing a shit ton of rotten old apples out.
Where the fuck do I sign. Old apples all gotta go. If there is a minimum age we gotta set a maximum age. Hell I'll take 70, but let's aim for 65 or less huh?