ShadowRam comments on Ontario rips up $100M Starlink contract ahead of U.S. tariffs

Ontario rips up $100M Starlink contract ahead of U.S. tariffs (www.cp24.com)

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Ford’s office made the announcement Monday and said the government is also banning other American companies from provincial contracts going forward

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[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 125 points 2 years ago (30 children)

It's not sane US citizens doing this

At some point we need to hit their pocket too.

33% of American didn't even bother to show up and vote. They're complicit in this, and they deserve the pinch to wake the fuck up as to what their country is doing.

And if that's not enough, well.... the sane ones might need to get off their ass and start doing something about the rampant assholes running around shitting on everyone.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 53 points 2 years ago*

Speaking of turnout, Ontario has an election coming up. Last time, Doug Ford (Conservative) was voted back in with a turnout of 43%. So about 57% of Ontarians didn't bother to take a few minutes to vote. And now our healthcare and education systems are being dismantled for the sake of profit. Maybe on February 27th we can get a slightly less shameful turnout and vote for someone who will actually stand up for Ontario's public services and stand up against the USA's bullying and threats?

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[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 14 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Great, sure, and I'm in the 33% that said, and is saying "hell to the power of fuck NO".

Edit: By which I mean I voted against the current shitshow. Sometimes my engrish is unclear. ;-)

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[–] SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

why didn't you vote?

edit: I guess i see what you are saying now. Still pretty easy to misunderstand it though. I voted against him too. Not sure why i'm getting downvoted. Maybe people think i agree or disagree with what's being said based on a simple 4 word question. Lemmy be weird sometimes.

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[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 18 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Ah, you misunderstand. Allow me to be explicit: I did vote against this shit show. Donvict47 won by 1.5%, and 19 million fewer voters in that election. It was voter suppression that won that election.

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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

People not caring enough to vote isn't "voter suppression".

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[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 3 points 2 years ago

And how do you feel about propaganda that encourages people to not vote? If the propaganda effectively stops people from voting, e.g. bomb scares at polling places, or you're not in a swing state so your vote doesn't matter, would you call that suppression? Just asking.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

You're comfused. 33% of Americans did not vote. To say you're part of that 33% means you didn't vote.

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[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago (5 children)

They didn't say they were part of that 33%, they said they were "part of the 33% that said..." Which is a different third of the population

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[+] TachyonTele@lemm.ee -13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

That doesn't make any sense. Harris had 48.3% of the vote.

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[–] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

33% didn't vote. That means 66% did vote. Of the 66% that voted half of them voted against Trump.

Now, what is half of 66%? 33% is half of 66%.

So the commenter is saying they are in the 33% of Americans that voted for Kamala.

33% Trump, 33% Kamala, 33% no vote.

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[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

FrostyTD has got it right. Sorry for the confusion, I really shouldn't comment before caffeine.

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago*

Freaking coffee zombies, lol

Edit: This is a Myth-Taken Identity reference

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

Okay dokey smokey

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[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The biggest problem is the "wake-up" isn't going to be in favor of reality. All blame is going to fall on the people working hardest to actually make effective change. There is far too much propaganda and yellow journalism in the US for that hurt to be directed in the right way.

It's much easier to direct an angry mob with simple lies than complex truth.

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[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You hit the nail right on the head.

As a person who lives in the U.S., the corporate ownership of the media is a huge problem. Pair that with the larger social media companies all censoring content now, and there’s no sense of ‘reality’ here anymore.

There are protests happening in major American cities, and they are only being covered by the local media of those cities, and their reach stymied online. It’s clear to me that the media is intentionally downplaying anti-Trump sentiment.

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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

The same thing happened with the Iraq war protests both before and after Bush invaded. Massive protests in all the big cities and smaller ones in the small cities, all but ignored by the media. They only mentioned in passing that there even were protests--no footage, no live reports, just crickets. This has been going on with the media for well over 25 years. It all started going to hell after Reagan revoked the Fairness Doctrine. You can trace pretty much everything that's led to the downfall of this country back to Reagan.

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[–] StopTouchingYourPhone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Everything you said is right. But a reminder for everyone scrolling that the CBC did NOT try to erase the 2003 World Says No To War protests:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/millions-say-no-to-war-in-iraq-1.411411

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canadians-join-global-peace-rally-1.397326

"There's no question Canadians are beginning to become worried and fearful," NDP leader Jack Layton said in Toronto. "But more and more of them expressing their views like this opens up the door to some hope."

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Got any stories about that? I mean local edia still has websites.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

There is evidence that voter suppression + not counting/disqualifying forced provisional votes created Trump victory.

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[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago*

Why don't we bring our skills together in a massive co-op that pays us fairly, that starts to compete with these mega corporations

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[+] black_flag_astronaut@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

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[+] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com -11 points 2 years ago (8 children)

33% of American didn't even bother to show up and vote. They're complicit in this

Millions in CA, whose votes went to the Dems. So tired of people pretending they can just lump all non voters together when they can't

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[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If you're not against fascists you're with them. There's no middle ground

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[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

But the democrats didn't offer me a pony, so not voting was noble and just!

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[+] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

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[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago

And you seem to be one of them

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[–] notabot@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

You can lump most of them together (I'd make exceptions for those with a genuine reason they couldn't, a medical issue or absolute lack of transport options for example). even if your state is, and was, solid blue, enough showing support to the Democrat candidate would have meant that Trump couldn't claim a mandate as the popular vote would have gone the other way. Sure, it wouldn't change the outcome itself, but would have given some comfort to those suffering that the majority of voters didn't want this. As it is, he scraped the popular vote, and the record shows that, in fact, the majority of those who could be bothered to vote actually deliberately voted for this.

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

People who didn't vote had their votes go to the Dems? What?

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[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

They're talking about the ridiculous electoral college which should be abolished. But voting is still important. I am in one of the reddest states and I still voted. There were important ballot measures and it's important to still vote even when you know it won't count. Now the dipshit gets to claim a mandate because he won popular vote. And of course with his lying he's calling it a landslide.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

Not American but Canadian and live in Alberta. I get off my ass every election and vote even though I know there is not a snowballs chance in hell anything but the cons are getting in power. They have been in power my whole life and longer except for one blip. Hoping for another longer one.

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